Confirmed Signing Josh King

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I think you need to break that down into seasons, think it will reflect poorly on King then.

It really, really doesn't. Moreover shows how overrated Zaha is.


 
There's quite clearly a massive gulf in quality between them. And you know that I rate King.

If we could get him in on a two-year deal he could be a versatile option for us.

As I said in the summer, like, I didn't want us to get rid of Kean and bring in King but right now if King could come in and score 5-6 goals for us that'd be a big boost.

However, would that just be a soak up on wages which could be put towards a real quality player - a Bailey or the like?

Have we got the money to sign a Bailey in January? I don't think we do.
 
Zaha: 230 PL apps / 44 goals / 41 assists

King: 161 PL apps / 48 goals / 15 assists

One's apparently the world's best player, one is apparently not even worth bringing in as forward cover :pint2:
Aren't like 15 of those goals from penalties?

I've shared his stats too many times now to be bothered to go in to why he isn't very good.

We need better.
 

10 penalty goals to Zaha's 2.

Not that it really matters. Vardy scores a load of pens and you'd still have him here.
Vardy has consistently scored 20 goals in the league for years, of course I'd have him.

King hasn't. We need better than him, even as a back up we need better.

He has also had covid and has struggled to get back from it, as evidenced by the fact that since the 7th November, he has played 40 minutes. Be a huge risk to sign him now and actually spend money to do so, not knowing the longer term impacts it may be having on him.
 
Vardy has consistently scored 20 goals in the league for years, of course I'd have him.

King hasn't. We need better than him, even as a back up we need better.

He has also had covid and has struggled to get back from it, as evidenced by the fact that since the 7th November, he has played 40 minutes. Be a huge risk to sign him now and actually spend money to do so, not knowing the longer term impacts it may be having on him.

He's just come back and scored two goals and got an assist in the FA Cup so reckon he's probably fit now.

Unsure who else you lot think is attainable for us in January to help the squad push to Europe.
 

Can totally understand people not wanting King but can't really understand people peddling the idea that it would be some sort of horrific deal or completely laughable. He's an international with plenty of PL experience and a half decent scoring record, who could offer cover in a couple of positions and probably wouldn't object to just being used as a rotation option. It's certainly not the dream signing and I'd probably swerve him myself to be honest, but I think we need to get over ourselves a little bit. We're not too good for him.
 
Can totally understand people not wanting King but can't really understand people peddling the idea that it would be some sort of horrific deal or completely laughable. He's an international with plenty of PL experience and a half decent scoring record, who could offer cover in a couple of positions and probably wouldn't object to just being used as a rotation option. It's certainly not the dream signing and I'd probably swerve him myself to be honest, but I think we need to get over ourselves a little bit. We're not too good for him.
Agree. He is not an ideal signing if we subtract all the conditions that work against us. But this world does not exist. Of the players available on the market that meet the criteria we need, King meets most of these criteria.

The dream is that we had signed Mbappe, or discovered a super talent that no other top club has control over, and the club of this player was willing to let him go to us almost for free. But that's not going to happen.

As I see it, a motivated and injury-free King will be a great addition to the squad. I think he will give us some extra points during the season. The difference between him and Tosun and Bernard is enormous.

Whether it is financially wise is another matter. However, we do not have to decide on that. But we have far too few offensive options, and that will cost us points.
 
think a lot will depend on the fee: if it was 15 mill in the summer with 1 year left on the contract it wasnt a good deal.
I assume the price is lower and certainly if we can give them a player on loan, it is deffo a good deal. Certainly after last night/pretty sure Tosun would want to leave to get more playing time
 
Have we got the money to sign a Bailey in January? I don't think we do.
Unless we sell Kean (or guarantee the sale for the summer), and manage to shift Tosun, Bernard etc, then probably not.

my point was, would buying King for a nominal fee, paying him 60-70k a week, just eat into funds that could mean we could go and get someone of Bailey’s ilk in the summer? So would a loan for someone right now be better as not to eat into that (though of course you have that issue of a player on loan needing to be of the quality required).

I think we should gamble this month. We should go and push our necks out and if the plan is to go and spend big on a forward player in the summer then honestly try and bring that forward - shift players if needs be to do it. We might not get another chance like this for a long while
 

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