2017/18 Jonjoe Kenny

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Surely part of the job of an academy is bring players through for us to use, also to have some sell on value if not good enough to go into the senior team.

So in this instance, if this is true, why would you question something if it is doing what it is supposed to? :confused:

Edit: Also, Davies has come through from the academy, we have bought in Lookman, Holgate and DCL who are all young players.....your post suggests to me to be going back to the lines of Koeman not trusting the young ones again, which is a theory he blew away last season completely.

Why do we seem to be going back down that track again? Confusing!

Maybe, just maybe they are not as good as we would like them to be.
Easy out for a manager only looking at the short term.
 

Yes but Kenny is very good in the air for his size, which is why he played at centre half for U18's.
Great. Plain him into the starting lineup for Everton then!

It's a good thing that he's not a complete waste in the air, but unless he's going to get first team starts at Everton, still not sure why loaning him out is a terrible thing.
 
Great. Plain him into the starting lineup for Everton then!

It's a good thing that he's not a complete waste in the air, but unless he's going to get first team starts at Everton, still not sure why loaning him out is a terrible thing.
We are talking about somebody saying connolly and kenny will.be permanent as part of the siggy deal
 

Mate, it's been said time and again that 'Coco' is demeaning and offensive yet people continue to say it.

Why don't we just call him a negrito as well while we're at it?

Disgusting.

Only in the eyes of the recreationally offended.

For the rest of us, the fellow could be a blue eyed Aryan from Scandanavia but his name would still be likened to the legendary circus performer.

Especially if he plays like one :pint2:
 
Surely part of the job of an academy is bring players through for us to use, also to have some sell on value if not good enough to go into the senior team.

So in this instance, if this is true, why would you question something if it is doing what it is supposed to? :confused:

Edit: Also, Davies has come through from the academy, we have bought in Lookman, Holgate and DCL who are all young players.....your post suggests to me to be going back to the lines of Koeman not trusting the young ones again, which is a theory he blew away last season completely.

Why do we seem to be going back down that track again? Confusing!

Maybe, just maybe they are not as good as we would like them to be.
Are we not allowed to question the club in anything they do now?

In this particular instance, the two players in question were part of the England squad that won the world cup less than 2 months ago. One of them was not only the best full back but probably one of the best 3 players in the whole tournament. Neither player has been given a real opportunity to show whether they can compete in the premiership. In the few minutes they have had they did not look out of place or overawed.

So yes, if we did sell both players to Swansea as part of the deal to bring in Sigurdsson, I would seriously question the clubs judgment, especially as we're bringing in players of the quality of Cuco Martina to play in their place.

To be honest, I would find it more strange if Evertonian's didn't question such a decision.

And yes, the jury is still out with Koeman's use of young players as far as I'm concerned. But probably not for the reasons you would expect. I think he was slow to introduce Davies to the first team last season but , once he did, I also think he played him too much. I also think he possibly overplayed Lookman to begin with, but then hardly played him at all when some games were crying out for him to be introduced from the bench. I think he was wrong to bring in Pennington for such an important game against Liverpool so soon after returning from injury and in a formation he hadn't played in before. And I still can't fathom out why he insists on playing DCL out of position.

I'm not anti Koeman in any way shape or form and I understand that he does what he does as a profession and I'm just a fan. But that doesn't mean I'm going to give him, or the club for that matter, carte blanche to do whatever they want without question.
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_(folklore)

Coco is offensive to the hispanic culture. Im aware due to my spanish heritage.

El Coco is the hispanic bogeyman who eats babies.
Yeah, I don't get it. It's the bogeyman. He eats kids. Hispanic culture celebrates el dia de los muertos where people dress up as the dead, the reaper, all sorts of things.

It may make him a scary dude, but it's hardly offensive. Is it worse than referring to someone as el diablo? Or the Grim Reaper?
 

I think Kenny has been overrated by some (probably because he is a local lad), and Martina has been written off too early. Both have had very limited appearances in our first team. That said, I do think Koeman is prone to selection mistakes like any manager and from what I have personally seen, I would feel far more at ease with Kenny starting tonight than Martina, and the same with the start of the league season.

Kenny has always looked solid defensively for me, with an intent to get down the wing. His crossing has looked excellent at times, but poor on other occasions which is quite common for a full back. Whenever he has been tested by an opposition winger when i've seen him though he has rarely, if ever been beaten. Martina on the other hand has looked very suspect defensively already. He did the unthinkable for a defender in that game in Belgium where he headed it down in to the path of the striker, got torn inside out on a couple of occasions last week against very poor standard opposition and again looked out of his depth with an aerial ball over his head late on.

He hasn't inspired the fanbase with confidence and I think Koeman could quite simply be wrong on this one which is frustrating. He's got it wrong with persistently playing Calvert Lewin out wide too. Calvert-Lewin can no doubt do a job for the team, but Koeman's use of him has not been the most effective for the team and he has undeservedly started ahead of some players in certain games in my opinion.
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_(folklore)

Coco is offensive to the hispanic culture. Im aware due to my spanish heritage.

El Coco is the hispanic bogeyman who eats babies.
I will never use the term Coco again when referring to clown like behaviour. Apologies if my previous use of the term has offended anybody.

However that doesn't change my opinion that Cuco is a clown. Only he can do that by putting in a series of decent performances for us. Let's hope he does, starting with tonight's game, otherwise there'll be a lot of disappointed blues by the time Christmas comes around.
 

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