John Stones transfer saga

[Toffee-nerd]

Ed, I am coming to the conclusion that Chelsea and Citeh have a "non aggression pact" when it comes to transfers.

They don't seem to get involved in bidding wars with each other.....certainly not for English players.

Chelsea gave Citeh a free run at wee Raheem......the latter are leaving the field clear regarding Stones.

They both know teams would be salivating at the thoughts of them trying to outbid each other for a player.

There's no such thing as a bidding war. Once a club reaches the magic numberthe selling club has on a player, any club can come in and match that bid. I don't really understand why people think having more than one club involved will drive his price up. We will have set valuation on stones, if we are selling him at all that is. If 20 clubs hit that figure they will all hold talks with the player and it's up to him where he goes. Just like we did when we bought him and he was on his way to Wigan.

 

[oldblue]

there is a term I came on across recently... confirmation bias... basically means when people hold a view they automatically only seek out stats that support this. the internet really thrives on this because when one person claims something every other media source/twitter fan claims this fact as their own and sends it out. we end up with a totally false sense of what is happening. right now something that maybe only ratcliffe said to get attention has become fact.
any whispers will always be about him going. If someone rung up the Mirror and said I was with Stones last night and he isn't going anywhere, do you think it would go any further than that?

 

[Alex Hindmarsh]

Reporter: "Has the interest in John Stones affected him?"

Bobby: "Yes"

Interesting one that.

 

[KevMirallas]

He's hardly extinguished the flame there, to be fair. Swerved the question about Stones having a price pretty quickly. Not that that's something we didn't already know.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Reporter: "Has the interest in John Stones affected him?"

Bobby: "Yes"

Interesting one that.

More interesting was how he responded to if he worries about a bid coming in the board wont refuse and he said he doesn't worry about situations he can't control

 

[catcherintherye]

Ed, I am coming to the conclusion that Chelsea and Citeh have a "non aggression pact" when it comes to transfers.

They don't seem to get involved in bidding wars with each other.....certainly not for English players.

Chelsea gave Citeh a free run at wee Raheem......the latter are leaving the field clear regarding Stones.

They both know teams would be salivating at the thoughts of them trying to outbid each other for a player.

I should imagine it is a bit less official than that, but essentially the same strategy. When one sits down to work out targets a big part of that is going to be acquiring the target at the right price. If you were Chelsea and knew City were going to make a move for a player common sense would be to avoid getting involved.

 

[Alex Hindmarsh]

More interesting was how he responded to if he worries about a bid coming in the board wont refuse and he said he doesn't worry about situations he can't control

True. Have to say I didn't expect those comments at all. Arguably the first time it looks like we've given even a hint of weakness or encouragement to Chelsea to put a big bid in.

 

[catcherintherye]

On the eve of the season I really hope a bid "they can't turn down" is more than 30 million. Especially given the likes of Swansea are asking for 25 for Ashley Williams.

 

[KevMirallas]

True. Have to say I didn't expect those comments at all. Arguably the first time it looks like we've given even a hint of weakness or encouragement to Chelsea to put a big bid in.

Agree. That was weird.

 

[canveyblue]

i think he will be gone before end of transfer window, less confident in RM bringing in quality replacement, as said earlier we need 2 CH , hes had all summer when he previously stated he had targets and would be getting them in early , not happened , losing faith in him massively .

 

[BlueToff]

More interesting was how he responded to if he worries about a bid coming in the board wont refuse and he said he doesn't worry about situations he can't control

Yeh I picked up on that too. Hopefully it washouts his way of saying that it's not in our control if Chelsea decide to put another bid in. Weird way of saying it though...

 

[KUEFC09U2]

Just hope he gets the money to spend to be fair, but there is always a feeling it will disappear into the goodison black hole

 

[Alex Hindmarsh]

Agree. That was weird.

Very weird mate.

 

[Gotagotmug]

Reporter: "Has the interest in John Stones affected him?"

Bobby: "Yes"

Interesting one that.

He never expanded on it either, just went on the usual answer about footballing compliments. It's not overly concerning as he hasn't started making noises about leaving, but I think it's fair to say that Chelsea did what they wanted and have turned his head enough.

 

[Kev The Rat]

People saying we have set a concrete valuation on Stones....I'm not so sure. There is such a thing as brinkmanship - and my view is we will hold on for as long as possible to push Chelski as far as they can go - and then sell him for whatever we can get away with. If we are skilled at this (and prior sales suggest we aren't bad - how we swindled 28m for Fellaini when he had a release clause of several million lower than that just a few weeks earlier) I would expect Stones to leave just as the transfer window closes for around 35m.