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Current Affairs John McCain - hero or Republican
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Okaaayyyy, and next?
Jamiednm
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What is his history with racist tendencies?
Redstarrob
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Nothing, as you say american politics has a lot of twists and turns, nearly as bad as ours
Redstarrob
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Ha ha, class mate
What an odd response. You started out of the gates with an edgy post way off topic and then when asked what your point was you acknowledge your original point was useless and as pointed out to you uninformed haha!!
So basically you try to play down your poor attempt at trolling with that original ridiculous point (which again by the way has nothing to do with this topic whatsoever) so as not to look foolish.
Redstarrob
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How am i trolling, the obvious point of this topic is can mccain be a hero and a republican, inferring that the republican party is right wing and racist, if i'm wrong i apologise, personally i dont give a shiny one about politics either side of the ocean
You, apparently inadvertently, echoed a fairly frequent trope from some rather unpleasant charaters mate - hence the rather robust pushback...
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...ty-for-democrats-are-the-real-racists/567317/
Voted against Civil liberties and establishing MLK day, called Vietnamese by offenses slang term (granted it was directed primarily toward his captors specifically, but like the n-word you just don't say it). Was against removing confederate flag from SC capitol (he did apologize for this later). Then again, he was supportive of Native Americans.
Was against same sex marriage - not racist, but bigoted.
Even that video that is floating around - the "rebuke" of the lady that called Obama an Arab. His reply is a little...off. He replies no ma'am. He is a good decent family man or something like that. The off-the-cuff reply definitely suggests he doesn't have a good opinion of Arabs or Muslims as he defended Obama as not being Arab. He didn't rebuke the idea that being Arab (implied Muslim) is bad. He defended a black man by throwing Muslims under the bus.
Obviously he wasn't even remotely on the level of Trump and white supremacists hence my use of tendencies; could argue he was a product of his time ...and lack of caring about being politically correct (see his racists jokes).
I have great respect for him, especially as he openly admitted (some of) his errors and when he didn't live up to his own ideals, but some things about him trouble me. I do wonder how much of what I feel now is due to the huge contrast to Trump and other prominent Republicans he represents.
I'm still holding Palin against McCain though. I'm never giving up that bitterness.
Jamiednm
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Ah, so nothing then.
Reactionary, bloodthirsty warhawk.
I'll not mourn him.
I'll not mourn him.
So glad I took the time to reply. Wish you'd mentioned you already had your mind made up.
How some people look at themselves in the mirror in the morning I have no idea.
dholliday
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Where's the poll?
He's very pro-war, so on balance it's a no from me. But props to him for being principled when faced with dumb tribalism (like when he defended Obama from the haters during the 2008 campaigns).
dholliday
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The reason McCain is getting so much good liberal press in the wake of his passing is because of Trump. The media don't like Trump, so they artificially big up things which paint the Donald in a bad light. Plenty of news pieces doing the rounds about how the President was too slow to tweet meaningless condolences, and how McCain was a real statesman (i.e. how Trump is not).
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