Joel Robles

[BlueLlama]

people who dont rate him are blind

Peoples who do rate him don't remember Big Nev or even Nigel Martim

 

[Neiziro]

I can't even begin to imagine where we'd be without Joel atm. Out of the League Cup in the 3rd round, probably out of the FA Cup in the 5th round, and 16th in the league. Jesus Christ.

Upped his game so much since his poor first 2 seasons. Needs to work a bit on his positioning and timing but those are the sorts of things that come with more playing time.

 

[sageyefc]

Peoples who do rate him don't remember Big Nev or even Nigel Martim

Very few in world football come even close to them though, certainly not Nev

 

[Goat]

Peoples who do rate him don't remember Big Nev or even Nigel Martim

WHO?

Oh you mean Nigel Martyn!

Some of us remember Bobby Mimms lad.

 

[f.t.r.s]

the lads done well since he's come in,
he's had his shaky moments but thankfully none have come back to haunt us,
so far theres been some moments from him which have earnt us a point or all 3 which is far from what can be said of howard this season

get another decent keeper in over the summer to push him and give joel pre season to earn the right to be no1,

 

[mlyons]

What more do you want out of a keeper who has given us a draw in the last two games yet for him it would have been defeats ?????
TBH you would moan at Degea!

I'm not criticizing Robles at all. He was great yesterday and he's been good since taking over as our number one keeper. I just don't see any point in anointing him as the starter next season at this point. We have to sign another goalkeeper in the summer no matter what, and there's absolutely no point in limiting ourselves by saying Robles is going to be the starter. We can attract a lot higher quality in the market if prospective transfers know they at least will be given a shot at winning the starting job in preseason. And, really, if the opportunity is there to go after someone like ter Stegen or Butland or Navas, it would be silly not to just because we already have Robles.

If we end up signing someone good and Robles still beats him out as the starter, all the better. I just don't see the point in targeting one of those career backup types like Alex Mccarthy or Paulo Gazzaniga just because we think Robles is good enough.

 

[Zatara]

hmm.


I've been doing a bit of thinking on it really.

People keep saying to me, Yes Joel IS good, he's a good premier league goalie, but we need better.


But.. i'm looking at his abilities now, and what he does, which is impressive, and i compare it to his negatives (his positioning sometimes, and sometimes his command of area) and his negatives are things that only come with game time.

I do think it'd be great to go out there and get a ready made top quality keeper, but i actually fully believe and will stand by, with game time Joel robles could become a quality keeper.

He has already improved radically from his first season, where he only had shot stopping and kicking, now he makes much better decisions, his closing down of the forwards is much better, and his closing down of angles has improved, but still needs to improve further.

I think for a keeper, he is still young, he is still inexperienced and in some cases that does show, because he hasn't been able to go on and play a 100 odd games in lower leagues, if he plays a hundred odd games for us he will become a similar level to someone like Butland, because he has natural ability.


A few games this season, and definitely last season he has kept us in games, and with a better organised defence he would rack up a lot of clean sheets, that's something that a (hopefully new) manager will sort out, and it'll save us a lot of money to spend elsewhere.

He has done very well since coming in for Howard and if we didnt have the TV money or Moshiri then i would be happy with him as first choice.

I think though that, like you say he could become a top keeper BUT does that mean he is then in the core group with barkley/stones/lukaku/besic/deulofeu who could potentially be top notch? I have limited knowledge on keepers development but have praised Sergio Rico many times on here as he's top notch in spain and i think he would be the best if not one of the best in england if we signed him.

Its really about loyalty i think. Robles has done very well but is a work in progress. I'd be taking the approach that we should either sign a keeper like Rico or Leno OR we go for a young keeper U21 with huge potential.

If we went for Rico/Leno or that type of quality then i would expect Robles to improve again due to the competition. We would look very strong then in this position. Otherwise we sign the young keeper and send him on loan for a couple of seasons and also sign experienced back up.

Either way works for me...but we should keep robles as first choice now and anyone new coming in needs to take the position off him.

 

[Zatara]

I'm not criticizing Robles at all. He was great yesterday and he's been good since taking over as our number one keeper. I just don't see any point in anointing him as the starter next season at this point. We have to sign another goalkeeper in the summer no matter what, and there's absolutely no point in limiting ourselves by saying Robles is going to be the starter. We can attract a lot higher quality in the market if prospective transfers know they at least will be given a shot at winning the starting job in preseason. And, really, if the opportunity is there to go after someone like ter Stegen or Butland or Navas, it would be silly not to just because we already have Robles.

If we end up signing someone good and Robles still beats him out as the starter, all the better. I just don't see the point in targeting one of those career backup types like Alex Mccarthy or Paulo Gazzaniga just because we think Robles is good enough.

There should be a plan in place for this position.

It seems to be that weve not had any real plan or consistency here and just reacted to players not being good enough...

What we need is to have a top first choice keeper + experienced backup. We also need to have a player with huge potential to eventually take the position.

Stoke are a great example as they had

Begovic
Sorensen
Butland

Thats great planning. As of the summer we will only have Robles....this is an opportunity for us now to do similar to Stoke and improve this position.

 

[mlyons]

There should be a plan in place for this position.

It seems to be that weve not had any real plan or consistency here and just reacted to players not being good enough...

What we need is to have a top first choice keeper + experienced backup. We also need to have a player with huge potential to eventually take the position.

Stoke are a great example as they had

Begovic
Sorensen
Butland

Thats great planning. As of the summer we will only have Robles....this is an opportunity for us now to do similar to Stoke and improve this position.

Why would we need an "experienced backup", though? What benefit did Stoke derive from having Sorensen last season? Why not just go out and get one goalkeeper, the best we can afford, instead of getting two who are half the value?

 

[royvernon39]

people who dont rate him are blind

Maybe not blind but they are poor judges of football.

I try to make a mental note of those who knock Robles and laugh at their ignorance and praise my superior
gifts.

What more can the bloke do? Got us to the Laegue Cup semi-final and kept us in the Cup at Bournemouth, in two seasons has never done a Star Jump, his distribution is usually excellent, and is a shot stopper. Last night, I was never worried by a long shot beating him but thought we would be undone by a Stones cock-up. As we nearly were. Various times.

Another fine purchase by RM from that treasure trove of talent - Wigan Athletic.

 

[Zatara]

Why would we need an "experienced backup", though? What benefit did Stoke derive from having Sorensen last season? Why not just go out and get one goalkeeper, the best we can afford, instead of getting two who are half the value?

Well, thats what i thought i wrote? Theres 3 options really and it depends on whether robles is seen as first choice next season. For me, id just go and sign the best possible which should be Rico or Leno.

Option A:
Sign a top keeper
Robles is number 2 (or we send him on loan and get in experienced backup)

Option B:
Sign a potentially top class keeper (send on loan)
Get experienced backup

 

[Joey66]

Well, thats what i thought i wrote? Theres 3 options really and it depends on whether robles is seen as first choice next season. For me, id just go and sign the best possible which should be Rico or Leno.

Option A:
Sign a top keeper
Robles is number 2 (or we send him on loan and get in experienced backup)

Option B:
Sign a potentially top class keeper (send on loan)
Get experienced backup

Or option C sack the muppets who chose Timmy for 18 months too long!

 

[Kiwi]

Solid again, one of the few positives in recent times.

 

[Joey66]

Robles today came out and caught the ball more than Timmy has managed in the last 18 months, another solid performance from him kept the defence organised as Southampton onslaught took momentum!

 

[ToffeeDoug]

The two points from the Palace and Southampton games are down to Robles more than anyone.