Current Affairs Joe Biden POTUS #46

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As I told your adopted son the other day, the source doesn't matter. How many weeks, months and years did the supposedly reputable New York Times, MSNBC, CNN, the Guardian etc go on and on about a Russia hoax that was thoroughly debunked at the cost of hundreds of millions of dollars?

It is the quality of the information that matters.

*I also linked to the wrong article:

Newly Discovered Hunter Biden Maltese Bank Account Is Linked to $10 Million Burisma Official’s Bribe

Toffee Oaf logic - you can't trust the MSM, only these sources that I copy and paste with random capitalisations and font size changes, wake up!

Also Toffee Oaf logic - THE SOURCE DOESN'T MATTER!!

Mate, log off the internet, get yourself a girlfriend or something.
 
Absolutely correct.

Hire a politician's kid, and sooner or later you probably get some face time via dinner when the politician is in town. As long as the kid won't screw up the responsibilities of the sinecure too badly, this is a fantastic use of lobbying resources. You even get to leverage the natural sympathy of the politician towards the kid's views.

This type of transaction is situation normal these days.
Nothing about that is absolutely correct. Joe Biden is not being investigated because he was lobbied by his son and a multi-national. He is being investigated because he received bribes and changed US policy to interfere in foreign affairs. That's corruption. As a VP he had no authority to do so.

If you also think that a Ukrainian natural gas company would naturally place its trust, company reputation and future in a foreign national that is involved in all kinds of sexually deviant stuff, is believed to be massively unstable - having an affair with his brother's widow, refuses to recognise his own daughter as his but worst of all is drugged up out of his mind ... that's not par for the course for any multinational company unless they are incredibly desperate.

Still opinions don't matter. Follow the money. If Joe Biden received money for favours (and it isn't just Ukraine that's on the table, Hunter has been busy - China and others are on the table as well) being impeached is just the start of his and Hunter's problems (that extends to the wider Biden family).

Joe Biden's Presidency is about to end. Even his intelligence agency buddies that tried to dismiss it all as "russian disinformation", the FBI and DOJ that have refused to investigate Biden despite having the material for 6 years can't protect him now. The game is up.
 
Nothing about that is absolutely correct. Joe Biden is not being investigated because he was lobbied by his son and a multi-national. He is being investigated because he received bribes and changed US policy to interfere in foreign affairs. That's corruption. As a VP he had no authority to do so.

If you also think that a Ukrainian natural gas company would naturally place its trust, company reputation and future in a foreign national that is involved in all kinds of sexually deviant stuff, is believed to be massively unstable - having an affair with his brother's widow, refuses to recognise his own daughter as his but worst of all is drugged up out of his mind ... that's not par for the course for any multinational company unless they are incredibly desperate.

Still opinions don't matter. Follow the money. If Joe Biden received money for favours (and it isn't just Ukraine that's on the table, Hunter has been busy - China and others are on the table as well) being impeached is just the start of his and Hunter's problems (that extends to the wider Biden family).

Joe Biden's Presidency is about to end. Even his intelligence agency buddies that tried to dismiss it all as "russian disinformation", the FBI and DOJ that have refused to investigate Biden despite having the material for 6 years can't protect him now. The game is up.
Show me the accounting data, and I'll agree that Joe Biden was bribed. Hunter taking money =/= Joe Biden taking money. That sort of nepotism is just customary these days, on both sides of the aisle. A bribery charge also requires a quid pro quo.

Until you produce the data, you have entirely missed the point of that exchange. If we locked up Biden for Burisma's nepotism, we would have to lock most every politician up, including Trump. Donald is dirtier than just about anybody, in the sense that he accepted appalling amounts of money from foreign nationals through his business interests while in office, and employed his kid and son-in-law in positions for which they had no qualification.
 
Nothing about that is absolutely correct. Joe Biden is not being investigated because he was lobbied by his son and a multi-national. He is being investigated because he received bribes and changed US policy to interfere in foreign affairs. That's corruption. As a VP he had no authority to do so.

If you also think that a Ukrainian natural gas company would naturally place its trust, company reputation and future in a foreign national that is involved in all kinds of sexually deviant stuff, is believed to be massively unstable - having an affair with his brother's widow, refuses to recognise his own daughter as his but worst of all is drugged up out of his mind ... that's not par for the course for any multinational company unless they are incredibly desperate.

Still opinions don't matter. Follow the money. If Joe Biden received money for favours (and it isn't just Ukraine that's on the table, Hunter has been busy - China and others are on the table as well) being impeached is just the start of his and Hunter's problems (that extends to the wider Biden family).

Joe Biden's Presidency is about to end. Even his intelligence agency buddies that tried to dismiss it all as "russian disinformation", the FBI and DOJ that have refused to investigate Biden despite having the material for 6 years can't protect him now. The game is up.
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This is the child that the Biden's refuse to acknowledge as theirs despite a paternity test ... what a family

Hunter Biden Sits For Deposition In Child Support Case, As Mom Of His Fourth Child Demands He Turn Over Financial Information

Lunden Roberts, mom to Hunter Biden’s fourth child, showed up to listen to his deposition in Arkansas on Friday. Biden and Roberts settled their child support case in 2019, but in 2022 Biden asked for his financial obligation to be reduced, citing a change in his finances. Roberts is demanding Biden turn over his financial records.

Lunden Roberts has refused to budge on the $20,000 per month she receives from Hunter in child support until he releases his financial records. Their child, Navy Joan Roberts, is four-years-old and was reportedly conceived while Hunter was in a relationship with his brother Beau’s widow.

Hunter, a lead figure in the Biden Crime Family, owns a multi-million dollar home in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in California. The home where Hunter and his wife, Mellisa Cohen, are raising their toddler son is located in Hollywood Hills, which shares the same zip code with several top Hollywood celebrities. Neither he nor Joe and Jill Biden have ever met his little girl.

Hunter traveled to downtown Little Rock, Arkansas, Friday to sit for his videotaped deposition. But 32-year-old Roberts surprised the first son by attending. Hunter was surrounded by secret service and arrived in a five-car motorcade, according to the Daily Mail. Hunter has constantly failed to turn over his financial records, leading Roberts to petition the circuit court judge to hold Hunter in contempt. Judge Holly Meyer has not ruled on contempt charges, but failing to turn over his records could cost Hunter jail time if he refuses to come clean about his finances.
Hunter is also facing congressional and federal investigations into his finances. His lawyer Abbe Lowe has attempted to keep Hunter from having to present evidence when the child-support case goes to court in Mid-July but has been unsuccessful.
While some have claimed Roberts worked as a stripper, she actually worked at Rosemont Seneca for Hunter, according to information retrieved from Hunter’s laptop.

Roberts has refused to take less in child support while forcing Hunter to come clean about his business deals. She has requested discovery into his global business deals in countries like China and Ukraine and also into the amounts paid for his amateur paintings. She has also upped the ante by requesting that Navy’s last name be changed to Biden so the child will “benefit from carrying the Biden Family name.”

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This is the child that the Biden's refuse to acknowledge as theirs despite a paternity test ... what a family

Hunter Biden Sits For Deposition In Child Support Case, As Mom Of His Fourth Child Demands He Turn Over Financial Information

Lunden Roberts, mom to Hunter Biden’s fourth child, showed up to listen to his deposition in Arkansas on Friday. Biden and Roberts settled their child support case in 2019, but in 2022 Biden asked for his financial obligation to be reduced, citing a change in his finances. Roberts is demanding Biden turn over his financial records.

Lunden Roberts has refused to budge on the $20,000 per month she receives from Hunter in child support until he releases his financial records. Their child, Navy Joan Roberts, is four-years-old and was reportedly conceived while Hunter was in a relationship with his brother Beau’s widow.

Hunter, a lead figure in the Biden Crime Family, owns a multi-million dollar home in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in California. The home where Hunter and his wife, Mellisa Cohen, are raising their toddler son is located in Hollywood Hills, which shares the same zip code with several top Hollywood celebrities. Neither he nor Joe and Jill Biden have ever met his little girl.

Hunter traveled to downtown Little Rock, Arkansas, Friday to sit for his videotaped deposition. But 32-year-old Roberts surprised the first son by attending. Hunter was surrounded by secret service and arrived in a five-car motorcade, according to the Daily Mail. Hunter has constantly failed to turn over his financial records, leading Roberts to petition the circuit court judge to hold Hunter in contempt. Judge Holly Meyer has not ruled on contempt charges, but failing to turn over his records could cost Hunter jail time if he refuses to come clean about his finances.
Hunter is also facing congressional and federal investigations into his finances. His lawyer Abbe Lowe has attempted to keep Hunter from having to present evidence when the child-support case goes to court in Mid-July but has been unsuccessful.
While some have claimed Roberts worked as a stripper, she actually worked at Rosemont Seneca for Hunter, according to information retrieved from Hunter’s laptop.

Roberts has refused to take less in child support while forcing Hunter to come clean about his business deals. She has requested discovery into his global business deals in countries like China and Ukraine and also into the amounts paid for his amateur paintings. She has also upped the ante by requesting that Navy’s last name be changed to Biden so the child will “benefit from carrying the Biden Family name.”

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MEGALITHIC if true
 
This is the child that the Biden's refuse to acknowledge as theirs despite a paternity test ... what a family

Hunter Biden Sits For Deposition In Child Support Case, As Mom Of His Fourth Child Demands He Turn Over Financial Information

Lunden Roberts, mom to Hunter Biden’s fourth child, showed up to listen to his deposition in Arkansas on Friday. Biden and Roberts settled their child support case in 2019, but in 2022 Biden asked for his financial obligation to be reduced, citing a change in his finances. Roberts is demanding Biden turn over his financial records.

Lunden Roberts has refused to budge on the $20,000 per month she receives from Hunter in child support until he releases his financial records. Their child, Navy Joan Roberts, is four-years-old and was reportedly conceived while Hunter was in a relationship with his brother Beau’s widow.

Hunter, a lead figure in the Biden Crime Family, owns a multi-million dollar home in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in California. The home where Hunter and his wife, Mellisa Cohen, are raising their toddler son is located in Hollywood Hills, which shares the same zip code with several top Hollywood celebrities. Neither he nor Joe and Jill Biden have ever met his little girl.

Hunter traveled to downtown Little Rock, Arkansas, Friday to sit for his videotaped deposition. But 32-year-old Roberts surprised the first son by attending. Hunter was surrounded by secret service and arrived in a five-car motorcade, according to the Daily Mail. Hunter has constantly failed to turn over his financial records, leading Roberts to petition the circuit court judge to hold Hunter in contempt. Judge Holly Meyer has not ruled on contempt charges, but failing to turn over his records could cost Hunter jail time if he refuses to come clean about his finances.
Hunter is also facing congressional and federal investigations into his finances. His lawyer Abbe Lowe has attempted to keep Hunter from having to present evidence when the child-support case goes to court in Mid-July but has been unsuccessful.
While some have claimed Roberts worked as a stripper, she actually worked at Rosemont Seneca for Hunter, according to information retrieved from Hunter’s laptop.

Roberts has refused to take less in child support while forcing Hunter to come clean about his business deals. She has requested discovery into his global business deals in countries like China and Ukraine and also into the amounts paid for his amateur paintings. She has also upped the ante by requesting that Navy’s last name be changed to Biden so the child will “benefit from carrying the Biden Family name.”

navy-roberts--740x490.jpg
 
This is the child that the Biden's refuse to acknowledge as theirs despite a paternity test ... what a family

Hunter Biden Sits For Deposition In Child Support Case, As Mom Of His Fourth Child Demands He Turn Over Financial Information

Lunden Roberts, mom to Hunter Biden’s fourth child, showed up to listen to his deposition in Arkansas on Friday. Biden and Roberts settled their child support case in 2019, but in 2022 Biden asked for his financial obligation to be reduced, citing a change in his finances. Roberts is demanding Biden turn over his financial records.

Lunden Roberts has refused to budge on the $20,000 per month she receives from Hunter in child support until he releases his financial records. Their child, Navy Joan Roberts, is four-years-old and was reportedly conceived while Hunter was in a relationship with his brother Beau’s widow.

Hunter, a lead figure in the Biden Crime Family, owns a multi-million dollar home in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in California. The home where Hunter and his wife, Mellisa Cohen, are raising their toddler son is located in Hollywood Hills, which shares the same zip code with several top Hollywood celebrities. Neither he nor Joe and Jill Biden have ever met his little girl.

Hunter traveled to downtown Little Rock, Arkansas, Friday to sit for his videotaped deposition. But 32-year-old Roberts surprised the first son by attending. Hunter was surrounded by secret service and arrived in a five-car motorcade, according to the Daily Mail. Hunter has constantly failed to turn over his financial records, leading Roberts to petition the circuit court judge to hold Hunter in contempt. Judge Holly Meyer has not ruled on contempt charges, but failing to turn over his records could cost Hunter jail time if he refuses to come clean about his finances.
Hunter is also facing congressional and federal investigations into his finances. His lawyer Abbe Lowe has attempted to keep Hunter from having to present evidence when the child-support case goes to court in Mid-July but has been unsuccessful.
While some have claimed Roberts worked as a stripper, she actually worked at Rosemont Seneca for Hunter, according to information retrieved from Hunter’s laptop.

Roberts has refused to take less in child support while forcing Hunter to come clean about his business deals. She has requested discovery into his global business deals in countries like China and Ukraine and also into the amounts paid for his amateur paintings. She has also upped the ante by requesting that Navy’s last name be changed to Biden so the child will “benefit from carrying the Biden Family name.”

navy-roberts--740x490.jpg

Given the MONUMENTAL bribery accusations against Biden, and the fact that his presidency “is about to end” [1], this feels like the esteemed publication “100%fedup.com” are ‘burying the lead’ with this story.

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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/joe-biden-potus-46.110270/page-240#post-10603840
 
Given the MONUMENTAL bribery accusations against Biden, and the fact that his presidency “is about to end” [1], this feels like the esteemed publication “100%fedup.com” are ‘burying the lead’ with this story.

[1]
Post in thread 'Joe Biden POTUS #46'
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/joe-biden-potus-46.110270/page-240#post-10603840
You don't think it's relevant for a young girl that her father and grandfather tell her that i don't know who you are and don't want anything to do with you? I wouldn't have thought that was good for a kid, but may be you know better...
 
This is the child that the Biden's refuse to acknowledge as theirs despite a paternity test ... what a family

If you want this to get any sort of fair hearing, you'll need a source that doesn't include the phrase 'Biden Crime Family' in it. Searching just the young girl's name brings up nothing but obviously biased right-wing sites, and even then they're careful to couch their articles behind questions as headlines.

Still opinions don't matter. Follow the money. If Joe Biden received money for favours (and it isn't just Ukraine that's on the table, Hunter has been busy - China and others are on the table as well) being impeached is just the start of his and Hunter's problems (that extends to the wider Biden family).

Joe Biden's Presidency is about to end. Even his intelligence agency buddies that tried to dismiss it all as "russian disinformation", the FBI and DOJ that have refused to investigate Biden despite having the material for 6 years can't protect him now. The game is up.

You know, you might be right. But here's the thing - if the only thing that exists is rumour, gossip and the right-wing press quoting each other as they go deeper into an echo chamber, then there's no way a Democrat-majority senate is going to vote to remove Biden regardless of what McCarthy's House does.

And if evidence does come out that is incontrovertible, to the degree that the Senate is compelled to act? Well, that's good too! Because if Biden really is corrupt, and if he really is a criminal mastermind masquerading as a senile doddering old man, then it's a good thing that he's impeached and removed, and that should be the viewpoint of everyone concerned with a healthy democracy, regardless of their position on the political spectrum.

Given that lots of the Left were dismayed to see Biden announce a run for re-election, I don't think continual attacks on his character are landing quite the way you expect them to. There just isn't that sort of equivalence between him and the way that the MAGA base still idolise Trump and project their own fantastical outlooks onto him. With the exception of some minor blocs such as 'Bernie Bros' and 'Corbynistas' the wider-Left just isn't playing the same personality-based politics that has become the Right's calling card in recent times.
 
If you want this to get any sort of fair hearing, you'll need a source that doesn't include the phrase 'Biden Crime Family' in it. Searching just the young girl's name brings up nothing but obviously biased right-wing sites, and even then they're careful to couch their articles behind questions as headlines.



You know, you might be right. But here's the thing - if the only thing that exists is rumour, gossip and the right-wing press quoting each other as they go deeper into an echo chamber, then there's no way a Democrat-majority senate is going to vote to remove Biden regardless of what McCarthy's House does.

And if evidence does come out that is incontrovertible, to the degree that the Senate is compelled to act? Well, that's good too! Because if Biden really is corrupt, and if he really is a criminal mastermind masquerading as a senile doddering old man, then it's a good thing that he's impeached and removed, and that should be the viewpoint of everyone concerned with a healthy democracy, regardless of their position on the political spectrum.

Given that lots of the Left were dismayed to see Biden announce a run for re-election, I don't think continual attacks on his character are landing quite the way you expect them to. There just isn't that sort of equivalence between him and the way that the MAGA base still idolise Trump and project their own fantastical outlooks onto him. With the exception of some minor blocs such as 'Bernie Bros' and 'Corbynistas' the wider-Left just isn't playing the same personality-based politics that has become the Right's calling card in recent times.
Thanks. That's a good response. I do take issue with the candidate of Biden actually, not because he's corrupt, old or feeble. I take issue with it because he clearly isn't in charge. You aren't electing that person to do anything. You are electing a team behind the curtain to decide policy and actions. It isn't democratic for unknown people to have power and no transparency of who's making what decision and how. They're also totally unaccountable for those decisions.

Biden himself is in a terrible state. This is a video of him yesterday after a speech in California, being pulled across the stage to shake hands with delegates because he's so feeble. It's awful.

 
I take issue with it because he clearly isn't in charge. You aren't electing that person to do anything. You are electing a team behind the curtain to decide policy and actions. It isn't democratic for unknown people to have power and no transparency of who's making what decision and how. They're also totally unaccountable for those decisions.

I don't entirely understand this. All political Executives have teams of unelected advisors, special advisors, communications directors and the like. When you elect a President (or when a Prime Minister is appointed via a less directly democratic method) there is the understanding they will appoint a team to support them in their role. Or are you talking about the cabinet? All of Biden's appointees had to be confirmed by the Senate, so again there's indirect democratic accountability. It's not feasible to run a national referendum for every political pick. In the UK it's slightly different as senior cabinet members are almost always elected MPs, but even then it's up to the PM to select who will carry out the roles, not the public.

So whilst it's true that some members of an administration are not directly accountable to the public, there is still an expenditure of political capital involved in every appointment by those that are, and if there are any overtly controversial picks then those that made the decisions can suffer later at the ballot box.

That's just how it works so not really sure why you have specific gripe over 'the candidate of Biden' here, as he appears to be running his administration the same way as any other Executive.

I don't really see anything in that video? He's on stage, she wants him to meet and greet some dignitaries on the other side of the stage. She's still holding his hand from shaking it. At the end, he's shaking the hands of the others. I don't see what's awful in there.
 
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