BirkenheadBlue
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Most (I won't say all, but certainly most) grassroots groups didn't do door-to-door campaigning either because... you know... covid.
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Rook
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as a member of congress (especially in the house) you are a nobody. Some spend years in office just trying to build connections and holding their noses while they vote for stuff they don't agree w/ just to get a few miles of highway through their district.
This leaves you 1 option. Run for governor. If you survive the primaries, you'll probably win. you have a platform there, the ability to go campaign in Trump country (there is a ton of Trump country in NY), plus an establishment DNC legislature that will finally have to listen to you. Get you policies passed and show the country they work on a smaller scale 1st. I never thought there'd be legal weed in this country but colorado proved the nation wrong a few years back and today its only a matter of time before its legalized on a federal level. This is the model you need to follow.
TN Toffee
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So glad he’s not going to put aside his principles and plans to keep fighting to ensure our planet is a uninhabitable wasteland, that hard working people continue to be forced to choose between basic health care and lifelong financial ruin and that corporate bigwigs continue to line their pockets.
Because you know, What Would Jesus Do?
davek
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They wouldn't have been as energised and out there canvassing and on social media as the people inspired by Sanders et al.
Why should they settle for a Biden presidency and shut their mouths? Biden needs to take these people on board with some high profile positions. Certainly Sanders who is vastly experienced.
BirkenheadBlue
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I absolutely agree... but it's not just a one way street, is what I'm saying.
Sanders, Warren (for whom my love is a well established element of CA lore), AOC etc are significantly to the left of where the "average" Democratic voter is.
Unfortunately, with McConnell still running the Senate, it's probably for the most part irrelevant anyway
davek
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They have a decision to make with 2024 in mind: stay safe (and even allow McConnell to demand a major say in key appointments) or promote the rising stars who represent the base.
If they fail to do the latter and alienate them 2024 - with a mainstrean conservative to face from the GOP - will result in a massive defeat.
That is my congresswoman. I wrote her an email basically saying "STFU". It's not "socialism" that almost cost you Abigail, it's that you have no personality and ran a nothing campaign in a MASSIVELY red area. You should be happy that the vote was the highest in 40 years that you kept your seat.
Honestly, I really don't like her that much but I hated the alternative.
TN Toffee
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Unfortunately, it’s not a matter of staying safe versus going progressive. It’s a matter of nominating people McConnell approves of versus going it alone without a cabinet. Bernie, Warren, AOC aren’t even worth spending time debating, as Mitch has the final say.
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davek
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Her position makes no sense. Nationally the popular vote for Biden was enormous, and it looks like in the end he'll be close to 300 electoral college votes defeating an incumbent president. The senate still looks up for grabs if the Georgia run offs go the way of the two Democrats.
If "socialism" delivered that then they need more of it.
davek
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Time for Biden to be brave and remind the Republican leaders they just lost an election and they will rebuff the will of the people if they hold the Senate as a hand to play aginst the executive. Could well be Harris has the casting vote there in any case if Georgia returns Democratic senators.
abelard
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That isn't true: Overall, 34% of registered voters identify as independents, 33% as Democrats and 29% as Republicans. The share of voters identifying as Republicans is now the same as it was in 2016, after having ticked down in 2017 (June 2020).
In Changing U.S. Electorate, Race and Education Remain Stark Dividing Lines
The gender gap in party identification remains the widest in a quarter century.
www.pewresearch.org
Trump initially lost Lincoln Project-type Republicans (all 12 of them) but has since made up the gap. And when the dust settles and we get better numbers from 2020, the proportion is almost certain to have further increased, especially among Hispanic voters.
The Biden campaign does not believe in door-to-door campaigning. It has nothing to do with Covid 19. They didn't do it in the primary either, which worked because, to a far, far, far greater extent than Republicans, Democrats believe whatever the television tells them.
(for a single image that explains American politics since 2016, look no further^)
But with a general rather than primary electorate, this is a mistake.
Democrat grassroots groups in the Twin Cities suburbs, Milwaukee/Madison, Detroit/Dearborn, and especially the Lehigh Valley and suburban Georgia have been building for years, picking up from where Obama abandoned them and facing active hostility from day one from the Party itself since 2016, in the first four instances.
It is a good thing that House Democrats were unsuccessful in seeking to destroy Ilhan Omar by breaking their own anti-AOC rules against contesting incumbents, because although she has no future beyond the House, her team probably saved Minnesota.
Having swung the balance for Joe Biden, they are now being scapegoated by lazy, corporate, for-life Democrats like Spanberger or Connor Lamb who lost because they offered voters nothing and would not know how to campaign if they tried, despite getting the Presidential candidate they all demanded. As the graph above, this excuse will serve its purpose and will likely enable them to be promoted upwards, where, along with Robby Mook's computer, they can blame socialism again in two years' time for overseeing the comprehensive kicking that the Dems are going to face in the midterms.
I mean, just like what those succubuses in The Squad made poor Connor Lamb do!
It is a cliche because it is true: Whereas Republicans fear their grassroots, Democrats hate their grassroots - even though they are the only people who know how to get corporate Democrats elected.
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"temporary" position was a theme pretty much throughout Trump's entire 4 years.
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That isn't true: Overall, 34% of registered voters identify as independents, 33% as Democrats and 29% as Republicans. The share of voters identifying as Republicans is now the same as it was in 2016, after having ticked down in 2017 (June 2020).
In Changing U.S. Electorate, Race and Education Remain Stark Dividing Lines
The gender gap in party identification remains the widest in a quarter century.
Trump initially lost Lincoln Project-type Republicans (all 12 of them) but has since made up the gap. And when the dust settles and we get better numbers from 2020, the proportion is almost certain to have further increased, especially among Hispanic voters.
The Biden campaign does not believe in door-to-door campaigning. It has nothing to do with Covid 19. They didn't do it in the primary either, which worked because, to a far, far, far greater extent than Republicans, Democrats believe whatever the television tells them.
(for a single image that explains American politics since 2016, look no further^)
But with a general rather than primary electorate, this is a mistake.
Democrat grassroots groups in the Twin Cities suburbs, Milwaukee/Madison, Detroit/Dearborn, and especially the Lehigh Valley and suburban Georgia have been building for years, picking up from where Obama abandoned them and facing active hostility from day one from the Party itself since 2016, in the first four instances.
It is a good thing that House Democrats were unsuccessful in seeking to destroy Ilhan Omar by breaking their own anti-AOC rules against contesting incumbents, because although she has no future beyond the House, her team probably saved Minnesota.
Having swung the balance for Joe Biden, they are now being scapegoated by lazy, corporate, for-life Democrats like Spanberger or Connor Lamb who lost because they offered voters nothing and would not know how to campaign if they tried, despite getting the Presidential candidate they all demanded. As the graph above, this excuse will serve its purpose and will likely enable them to be promoted upwards, where, along with Robby Mook's computer, they can blame socialism again in two years' time for overseeing the comprehensive kicking that the Dems are going to face in the midterms.
I mean, just like what those succubuses in The Squad made poor Connor Lamb do!
It is a cliche because it is true: Whereas Republicans fear their grassroots, Democrats hate their grassroots - even though they are the only people who know how to get corporate Democrats elected.
Regardless of which side of the debate you are on, your posts absolutely run over the intellectual lightweight stuff - thoroughly enjoy reading them, thanks @abelard
Bideneverton
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can't change the republican party with or without trump they are still jerks.
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