James McCarthy

dublinbluenose · March 31, 2017

ijjysmith said:
Weren't we playing really really crap at that point?

Then went on to win the game after he went off?

ianefc said:
Was that the game where Koeman acknowledged he got his tactics wrong, we were playing really badly and we're 1-0 down, he changed it and we went on to win? Was it that one?

Should have spared Mccarthy's blushes at the expense of Everton?

The point being Koeman's mind was made up early about McCarthy, last week has little or no bearing on it in the greater scheme of things.

ijjysmith · March 31, 2017

dublinbluenose said:
The point being Koeman's mind was made up early about McCarthy, last week has little or no bearing on it in the greater scheme of things.

Maybe so.

But that game he was sacrificed and we went onto win. So it's all good really.

ToffeeTim · March 31, 2017

dublinbluenose said:
He also took him off after about 25 mins in an early game (West Brom I think), totally embarrassed the lad.

A game Rom changed the complexion of and we came from behind to win. This isn't a game for sentiment.

ianefc · March 31, 2017

dublinbluenose said:
The point being Koeman's mind was made up early about McCarthy, last week has little or no bearing on it in the greater scheme of things.

Nonsense. He's played quite regularly when fit. He unfortunately hasn't been fit often enough. He'd probably of started him tomorrow in the absence of the superior Schneiderlin if he was fit.

jinkyali · March 31, 2017

davek said:
And that was a continuing spat was it?

No. Done and dusted in a week. Never an issue thereafter.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...an-everton-republic-of-ireland-james-mccarthy

Proper done and dusted within a week.

dublinbluenose · March 31, 2017

Barnfred 55 said:
That was true. RK got his line up totally wrong in that game, had to change the system and McCarthy was sacrificed for Lukaku. I don't think it was as early as 25 minutes but it was before half time. You feel for the player in those circumstances but a change was required and we won the game from a losing position. But it wasn't personal against McCarthy. Koeman did the same thing, making half time changes of Barkley against Sunderland and Holgate against Stoke. Again, it wasn't personal and the players are all professionals and should understand that.

Going off topic here but he has said that he wanted to teach Barkley a lesson by leaving him out, so in essence it actually is personal. It proved to be the right motivation for Ross tbf.

ToffeeTim · March 31, 2017

dublinbluenose said:
The point being Koeman's mind was made up early about McCarthy, last week has little or no bearing on it in the greater scheme of things.

Nope. A fully fit and hungry Mccarthy is an asset to us and that's why Koeman played him against Liverpool, against Arsenal etc. But he's too big a crock now and we should cash in.

Blue 1 · March 31, 2017

O'Neill is such a condescending bellsniff.

ianefc · March 31, 2017

jinkyali said:
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...an-everton-republic-of-ireland-james-mccarthy

Proper done and dusted within a week.

Thought you'd got that wrong for a second until I read the quote. Roy Keanes words suggest it was a long term thing under Martinez too.

davek · March 31, 2017

ianefc said:
The state of you bringing Kendall into it. As if anyone is going to get involved in that debate. Your head has completely fallen off this last week.

Dont deflect. This feller has gone beyond the pale here.

O'Neill is correct: the time now is for quiet introspection. There is unseemly public wrangling over this issue. Koeman's words should solely have been about Coleman and nothing else.

As said, whoever is in charge at that club need to be exercising some discipline on him here. We are supposed to be stepping forward into a new era as a forward looking club and one with a positive reputation for being community spirited - but the face this feller is presenting to the world for us is a snarling vindictive one.

It's at loggerheads with what the club wish to portray us as.

The Rhino · March 31, 2017

Ah tired of every thread being the same posters arguing with Dave on the wind up.

ianefc · March 31, 2017

davek said:
Dont deflect. This feller has gone beyond the pale here.

O'Neill is correct: the time now is for quiet introspection. There is unseemly public wrangling over this issue. Koeman's words should solely have been about Coleman and nothing else.

As said, whoever is in charge at that club need to be exercising some discipline on him here. We are supposed to be stepping forward into a new era as a forward looking club and one with a positive reputation for being community spirited - but the face this feller is presenting to the world for us is a snarling vindictive one.

It's at loggerheads with what the club wish to portray us as.

Does Koeman have a problem with ROI and no one else? Why are all our other international players spared this mad Dutchmans anger when it come to international football?

davek · March 31, 2017

The Rhino said:
Ah tired of every thread being the same posters arguing with Dave on the wind up.

Give it a rest you bore.

davek · March 31, 2017

ianefc said:
Does Koeman have a problem with ROI and no one else? Why are all our other international players spared this mad Dutchmans anger when it come to international football?

You tell me.