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Martyn, Cahill, Arteta, Lescott, Howard, Baines, Pienaar, Fellaini, Stones. They were the pick of the Moyes signings who you could say were great acquisitions - on the cheap and gave great service (with some fetching a big profit for the club).

That's nine players in 11 seasons. The vast majority that he signed were utter tripe / barely decent:

Richard Wright
Iain Turner
Li Tie
McFadden
Beattie
Kroldrup
Davies
Plessis
Neville
Valente
Van Der Meyde
Scott Spencer
Jutkiewicz
Wessels
Gosling
Gardner
Jacobsen
Castillo
Nash
Garbutt
Peterlin
Arnoux
Bilyaletdinov
Heitinga
Neill
Beckford
Mageye Gueye
Mucha
Velios
Gibson
Jelavic
Naismith
Kennedy
Hitzlsperger
Heitinga won our player of the year didn’t he one season?
 
Martyn, Cahill, Arteta, Lescott, Howard, Baines, Pienaar, Fellaini, Stones. They were the pick of the Moyes signings who you could say were great acquisitions - on the cheap and gave great service (with some fetching a big profit for the club).

That's nine players in 11 seasons. The vast majority that he signed were utter tripe / barely decent:

Richard Wright
Iain Turner
Li Tie
McFadden
Beattie
Kroldrup
Davies
Plessis
Neville
Valente
Van Der Meyde
Scott Spencer
Jutkiewicz
Wessels
Gosling
Gardner
Jacobsen
Castillo
Nash
Garbutt
Peterlin
Arnoux
Bilyaletdinov
Heitinga
Neill
Beckford
Mageye Gueye
Mucha
Velios
Gibson
Jelavic
Naismith
Kennedy
Hitzlsperger

We’ll have to agree to disagree. Even in that list of ‘utter tripe’ though you have an Everton captain who we bought for 3 million and gave us 7 years service, a striker picked up for free that we sold for 10 million and was rated by Martinez also, and a World Cup finalist centreback who managed to split up Jags and Distin (both oddly missing off your list of good signings along with Coleman the 60k kid who is now captain after a decade) and was player of the season.

A lot of the rest of it is full of loan players, kids, and back up goalkeepers the type of signings you have to make when you have barely any budget but your first 11 is decent. Any manager of any team outside of the chequebook teams probably has a similar list of players.

But on McCarthy....he’s not as good as Gueye, and I don’t think Gueye is the level we require either, that’s unfortunately the standard we now have to find if we want to get to the top.
 
Rooney was inherited by Moyes. He didn't sign him.

Cahill, Arteta, Pienaar etc were good contributors on the pitch...nit as much as Lukaku, and NONE of them got near to the sheer profit heis sale produced.

All in all, it is self evident that Lukaku is the greatesdt signing of the 21st century for EFC.

Fair on the Rooney.

I personally believe Coleman to be a better signing due to low outlay, captain, loyal to the club.

I’d possibly put stones above Lukaku because it was a low outlay, and pretty sure the price we received was a greater multiple than that of Lukaku.

From a goals and profit perspective Lukaku was the best no doubt, but the hassle and disrespect, plus the higher outlay for his purchase... I’d not say he was the best.

Depends on how you define ‘best’
 
Martyn, Cahill, Arteta, Lescott, Howard, Baines, Pienaar, Fellaini, Stones. They were the pick of the Moyes signings who you could say were great acquisitions - on the cheap and gave great service (with some fetching a big profit for the club).

That's nine players in 11 seasons. The vast majority that he signed were utter tripe / barely decent:

Richard Wright
Iain Turner
Li Tie
McFadden
Beattie
Kroldrup
Davies
Plessis
Neville
Valente
Van Der Meyde
Scott Spencer
Jutkiewicz
Wessels
Gosling
Gardner
Jacobsen
Castillo
Nash
Garbutt
Peterlin
Arnoux
Bilyaletdinov
Heitinga
Neill
Beckford
Mageye Gueye
Mucha
Velios
Gibson
Jelavic
Naismith
Kennedy
Hitzlsperger

Where is that God of a striker Yakubu!
 

They were bang average to tripe. Outside of the obvious Arteta, Cahhill, Pienaar, Baines, Lescott signings which eveyone points to, the quality was poor and the value to this club was non-exositent.

That's the reality of the Moyes era from a player transaction perspective.


Heitinga definitely wasnt bang average. Didnt he win player of the season once as well? Liked him me
 
Getting back to the main subject is the rumour about McCarthy just that, media rubbish or can we wish him well at Palace? Mick McCarthy will be delighted and will pick him immediately.
 
Martyn, Cahill, Arteta, Lescott, Howard, Baines, Pienaar, Fellaini, Stones. They were the pick of the Moyes signings who you could say were great acquisitions - on the cheap and gave great service (with some fetching a big profit for the club).

That's nine players in 11 seasons. The vast majority that he signed were utter tripe / barely decent:

Richard Wright
Iain Turner
Li Tie
McFadden
Beattie
Kroldrup
Davies
Plessis
Neville
Valente
Van Der Meyde
Scott Spencer
Jutkiewicz
Wessels
Gosling
Gardner
Jacobsen
Castillo
Nash
Garbutt
Peterlin
Arnoux
Bilyaletdinov
Heitinga
Neill
Beckford
Mageye Gueye
Mucha
Velios
Gibson
Jelavic
Naismith
Kennedy
Hitzlsperger

You missed Yobo out, he was a good signing gave us some pace at the back, we’d of got our money back if the Turks had paid up. Marcus Bent was cheap did a job and got sold for profit. Yak slotted for us, Neill, Beckford and Naismith all made us a decent profit so we’re decent signings, a few others without being fantastic we’re budget fillers that did ok.

Some decent loans as well Donovan, Manny Fernandes, Jo.
 
Martyn, Cahill, Arteta, Lescott, Howard, Baines, Pienaar, Fellaini, Stones. They were the pick of the Moyes signings who you could say were great acquisitions - on the cheap and gave great service (with some fetching a big profit for the club).

That's nine players in 11 seasons. The vast majority that he signed were utter tripe / barely decent:

Richard Wright
Iain Turner
Li Tie
McFadden
Beattie
Kroldrup
Davies
Plessis
Neville
Valente
Van Der Meyde
Scott Spencer
Jutkiewicz
Wessels
Gosling
Gardner
Jacobsen
Castillo
Nash
Garbutt
Peterlin
Arnoux
Bilyaletdinov
Heitinga
Neill
Beckford
Mageye Gueye
Mucha
Velios
Gibson
Jelavic
Naismith
Kennedy
Hitzlsperger

Yep just think of the damage Martinez could have done of given longer! In only 3 seasons he gave us
Alcaraz
Atsu
Rodriguez
McGeady
Niasse
Tarashaj
Stanek
Henen
Kone
Eto (who sussed out he had signed for a clown very quickly)
Cleverly (who he called one of the best midfielders in England )lol
Galloway
Besic
Byrne

See we can all do this

Martinez best signings were clearly Barry, McCarthy (first season) and Lukaku, though Lukaku had his best season under Koeman.

Now there’s your actual reality.

You won’t respond to this I expect as it smashes your posts into tiny little pieces.
 

Fair on the Rooney.

I personally believe Coleman to be a better signing due to low outlay, captain, loyal to the club.

I’d possibly put stones above Lukaku because it was a low outlay, and pretty sure the price we received was a greater multiple than that of Lukaku.

From a goals and profit perspective Lukaku was the best no doubt, but the hassle and disrespect, plus the higher outlay for his purchase... I’d not say he was the best.

Depends on how you define ‘best’
Ignoring money, it simply has to be Cahill.
 
Funny how time changes people's perspective

Players like Jermaine Beckford getting slagged off for being average back in a period of the club's history when we didn't have two pennies to rub together

Yet here we are, all monied up in 2019 - and Jermaine Beckford scored more goals in his one full season than any of our strikers did last year

Wonder which position needs some attention?
 
Be sad to see Jamsey go, hes a very good player.

Its a massive shame his injuries have limited his contribution, but we are not innocent on that score either. When you weigh it up a fresh start might be best for both parties, but 8 mill seems low, id sell or 10-12, that said it almost all profit and he would be on a decent bit of wedge in wage.
 
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Be sad to see Jamsey go, hes a very good player.

Its a massive shame his injuries have limited his contribution, but we are not innocent on that score either. When you weigh it up a fresh start might be best for both parties, but 8 mill seems low, id sell or 10-12, that said it almost all profit and he would be on a decent bit of wedge in wage.

You take what offer is on the table IMO, any return now on a player who has played as little as he has is a good offer.
 

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