Jack Butland

[Seamus Colemole]

I guess I just don't understand the angst. There really aren't that many examples of young players not getting a chance here and then flourishing elsewhere in the PL.

Certainly this club needs to produce young, talented players, but perhaps the issue lies with the acquisition of talent, not some perceived lack of opportunity.

I've said that before and you're correct, if its a case of all our young players are either good enough to play for title winners or absolutely gash (as often given as a reason for why they don't play) then there's soemthing wrong with our youth set up which needs to be sorted.

Its not a personal thing, if we had billions of pounds to spend on players i wouldn't really care. But we don't so we need youth to come through and be of some use.

But i don't think they are that bad, form all evidence we have, and had some very decent young players coming through at the club. But other than a handful they don't make it into the first team squad and very rarely get the chance to prove themselves ahead of a more experienced player.

 

[Goat]

I've said that before and you're correct, if its a case of all our young players are either good enough to play for title winners or absolutely gash (as often given as a reason for why they don't play) then there's soemthing wrong with our youth set up which needs to be sorted.

Its not a personal thing, if we had billions of pounds to spend on players i wouldn't really care. But we don't so we need youth to come through and be of some use.

But i don't think they are that bad, form all evidence we have, and had some very decent young players coming through at the club. But other than a handful they don't make it into the first team squad and very rarely get the chance to prove themselves ahead of a more experienced player.

Well clearly they are that bad mate, its not like any of them leave Everton and show it, its not as if Moyes is holding back these superb players, the lower leagues is jam packed of these players.

Theres nothing wrong with our Youth system tho really, in the last 10 Years it has "created" as you say, 2 players that play for 2 top teams in the League, not to mention a host of other, "decent" players.

But the ones that are good enough come through and get games, the ones that arent play for Tranmere and Oldham on a Saturday.

 

[ToffeeMike]

We need him to give Howard competition, Howard loses focus sometimes...

 

[Jags..class]

Heard rumours that Brendon wants him and wants to sell their spanish ********

 

[Dom1878]

Heard rumours that Brendon wants him and wants to sell their spanish ********

I'd cry if Liverpool got him.

Butland is already a great keeper, and he is only going to get better over the next 15 years or so. We really need to sign him in january. Not only to keep Howard on his toes, but as an investment. Getting some lousy keeper on a free isn't good enough anymore

 

[Slavan]

howard is adequate, butland would probably be adequate at first.
The difference is Butland may go on tobe top class, something howard will never be.

 

[Jozzy]

Are people willing to spend the small budget we have on a keeper who will most likely not even be our first choice keeper? I think Butland is an amazing talent but I feel we need to play it smart with our money. Howard may not win Goalkeeper of the year but he's a more than capable keeper and is doing his job fine at the moment. This is the the best position the club has been in for a long time so if we can have a really good window in January and bring in players who will be able to have an impact and help improve the team immediately then there's no reaso we can't push for a top 4-6 spot.

 

[Slavan]

Jozzy does have a point.

Howard is doing an adequate job for us,

we need to bring in a quality centre mid and IMO our 2nd priority should be a youngish quality centre half if Duffy is not the answer (i dont think any of us know if he will be or wont just yet).

then we can move howard on and bring in butland.

 

[Jags..class]

I'd cry if Liverpool got him.

Butland is already a great keeper, and he is only going to get better over the next 15 years or so. We really need to sign him in january. Not only to keep Howard on his toes, but as an investment. Getting some lousy keeper on a free isn't good enough anymore

If we want Butland then we have to be quick cos teams are looking at him.

 

[Pabbers]

I really want this guy.

Bring him in next season, and loan him out of needed. We need to act quick.

 

[Kay20]

howard is adequate, butland would probably be adequate at first.
The difference is Butland may go on tobe top class, something howard will never be.

He already is. Though I expected him to save yesterday's free kick as well. Class save on Berbatov made up for it. Moyes will stick him between the pipes, and there you have it.

No idea who Butland is - curious as to whether it's a knee jerk reaction to want him, but don't know enough about him to pass judgment.

 

[Kurt.]

I don't understand this " He made a good save from Berbatov so that makes up for it" atitude...he gets paid to save shots...thats his job....making a save doesn't make up the fact he has let in a soft goal.... the only way to make that up is to go down the other end and score one back.....simple.

 

[Bigmaclad]

Howard is not good enough if we want Top 4. Butland could develop to be.

 

[Coach]

Some rubbish spouted about Howard in this thread.

 

[EFCNIK]

I love T How. Everyone koff.