Current Affairs Islamaphobia and Everton

[Goat]

I was reading an article yesterday (https://www.economist.com/britain/2...oals-help-to-tackle-islamophobia-in-liverpool) that looked at new research into Islamaphobia in Britain, and specifically at whether high profile Muslims (Mo Salah in this instance) can help to dampen Islamaphobia.



I don't know how robust the methodology of the research was, but given our personal experience with Steve0 on here, it was noticeable how high the figures were for Everton fans. Obviously you'd probably expect far more negative tweets towards Salah from Everton fans than from other clubs, but this seems to suggest a large number of them refer to his religion in a derogatory way.

Is this something to be worried about you reckon?

I dunno, its hard.

We called Rush a big nosed sheep shagger. Now its replaced by saying Salah married his cousin.

Some of it is fuelled by racism, but most it be blind hate for them.

 

[tsubaki]

Was watching the local news a few days ago. Muslim lad on there who was around 30, lived in Liverpool all his life and had never had one single experience of islamophobia in his life, nor did he know any other Muslims in the City who had.

But watching itv national news a few days ago it said Islamophobia incidents in Liverpool had dropped since Salah arrived, not quite sure what to make of that.

not sure why anyone should be surprised that he is associated with something going down suddenly in Liverpool

 

[Huyton Layne]

Hate Muslims but have Muslim players that are loved and some loved way more than their ability would suggest.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I was reading an article yesterday (https://www.economist.com/britain/2...oals-help-to-tackle-islamophobia-in-liverpool) that looked at new research into Islamaphobia in Britain, and specifically at whether high profile Muslims (Mo Salah in this instance) can help to dampen Islamaphobia.



I don't know how robust the methodology of the research was, but given our personal experience with Steve0 on here, it was noticeable how high the figures were for Everton fans. Obviously you'd probably expect far more negative tweets towards Salah from Everton fans than from other clubs, but this seems to suggest a large number of them refer to his religion in a derogatory way.

Is this something to be worried about you reckon?

To be fair, at the Derby last season their were lads behind me shouting "You Muslim [Rude words removed]" at him

That was just two people though

 

[Joey66]

To be fair, at the Derby last season their were lads behind me shouting "You Muslim [Rude words removed]" at him

That was just two people though

Best way to solve this if Liverpool would accept the 150 million offer for Salah, and both problems may get solved - if they replace him with a worse player.....Joke......

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

To be fair, at the Derby last season their were lads behind me shouting "You Muslim [Rude words removed]" at him

That was just two people though

It was the same weapons who always loudly complain about Coleman not talking to the referee enough, so they could just be two ill educated buffoons and not an accurate representation of the fan base

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

To be fair, at the Derby last season their were lads behind me shouting "You Muslim [Rude words removed]" at him

That was just two people though

Been in and round football longer enough to notice right wing trouble maker plants at matches and the pubs etc, but more so with England, always in two's.

 

[Alan Whittle]

Scanning through the methodology for the way it was done, it has about as much value as a chocolate teapot.

Essentially it uses sentiment analysis based on words that are associated with Muslims. Now, sentiment analysis in itself is utter toss as it’s invariably done by crap software rather than by a person which cannot understand humour, subtlety etc. They’ve glossed over that a bit. They’ve also not included the trigger words that would of generated inclusion.

That’s a problem. As an example, one word that’s related to Muslims one would expect is ‘brown’. That’s great until you consider the amount of tweets about Bobby Brown shoes being useless. It’s little things like that.

Glancing through the entire paper it’s so badly strung together to create this image of Salah that it’s academic credibility is almost zero.

I have an "Economist" subscription and this was a noticeably lamentable article.
Generally a good way of digesting current events without the increasingly polarised newspapers.

 

[orchard]

I have an "Economist" subscription and this was a noticeably lamentable article.
Generally a good way of digesting current events without the increasingly polarised newspapers.

Is it? Doesn't it carry its own bias?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Is it? Doesn't it carry its own bias?

It's very reasonable.

 

[Alan Whittle]

Is it? Doesn't it carry its own bias?

Yes, it is pro business and socially liberal but it is far less unbalanced than any of the leading broadsheets and has sections on technology, science, the arts and all global regions each week.

 

[Eggs]

...I remember being in the pub when Salah scored soon after his arrival. He dropped to his knees in a praying mode and a few Reds in the bar made comments along the lines of; “you can cut that nonsense out”.

Most clubs have Muslims these days, it makes no difference to the vast majority of fans many (we hope) are Muslims themselves. Saying that, there will be elements amongst any group of people.

 

[johnblue23]

By Agency
11:23AM BST 15 Apr 2015

Liverpool FC has said it will take action against a fan who allegedly called two Muslim men "a disgrace" for praying at Anfield.
Stephen Dodd was at the centre of a Twitter storm over a picture of solicitors Asif Bodi and Abubakar Bhula worshipping during the half-time break as the Reds took on Blackburn Rovers on March 8.
The picture appeared to be sent from his account, with the caption: "Muslims praying at half time at the match yesterday #DISGRACE."

Has that attitude towards Muslims completely gone in Liverpool because Salah signed? I'd think not.

 

[davek]

Utter nonsense.

Liverpool fans have that song about Salah: "if he scores another few, then I'll be Muslim too"....the sentiment being of the "I'll even think about being a dirty 'kin Arab if he scores for us".

It's about a millimetre from being the "I'd rather be a P*k* than a Scouse" jibe from years ago.

 

[LEONARD]

Every club in the land, has a handful of fans who are ignorant, racist, homophobic knuckleheads.

Except LIVERPOOL, every one of them ideologically pure.