Initial 10, then reduced to 6 + 2 Point Deductions

b-rad said:
A hard salary cap only works if the other top European leagues agree the same. Otherwise no top players come here. Overall that may not be a bad thing as it brings the game back to local teams for local fans, but there’s no way any prem club would vote for that now there is huge money in the game.
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The likes of Madrid and Barcelona etc would never agree to a cap on wages, but if it came in for the PL the huge money in the game would more or less stay with the clubs instead of going into players and agents pockets. That money might then be better spent developing local talent. Back in the old days when English clubs dominated in Europe the teams were full of UK and Irish names, the odd overseas player here or there. Nowadays even if there is an English player in your team they are most likely from the other end of the country.
 
Timbucktoo said:
The likes of Madrid and Barcelona etc would never agree to a cap on wages, but if it came in for the PL the huge money in the game would more or less stay with the clubs instead of going into players and agents pockets. That money might then be better spent developing local talent. Back in the old days when English clubs dominated in Europe the teams were full of UK and Irish names, the odd overseas player here or there. Nowadays even if there is an English player in your team they are most likely from the other end of the country.
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There's nothing stopping clubs from doing this now
 
Timbucktoo said:
The likes of Madrid and Barcelona etc would never agree to a cap on wages, but if it came in for the PL the huge money in the game would more or less stay with the clubs instead of going into players and agents pockets. That money might then be better spent developing local talent. Back in the old days when English clubs dominated in Europe the teams were full of UK and Irish names, the odd overseas player here or there. Nowadays even if there is an English player in your team they are most likely from the other end of the country.
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Over time, I don't think this would be true though.
The appeal of the PL as a global entertainment package is that many of the best players and biggest stars play here. I'm assuming part of the appeal from any given nation is the fact that some of the major stars of that nation's team are playing for one of the top clubs here.

Over time, a salary cap would mean the best (foreign, especially) players would choose a higher salary elsewhere than a lower one in the PL. The more this happens, the dimmer the PL's attractiveness to a global audience and also to players who may otherwise sacrifice a larger wage for the kudos of playing in the PL.

"Back in the old days when English clubs dominated in Europe the teams were full of UK and Irish names, the odd overseas player here or there" - it was also the case that Spanish teams were full of Spanish names, German teams were full of German names, Italian teams were full of Italian names, etc.
If English teams are the only ones who progress back towards that kind of setup (while Real Madrid for example, can still fork out for the very best players in the whole world and not just their own country), it may be good for match going fans to have more of a connection with a local team full of English players, but it becomes less likely that English teams will be able to dominate in the way they did in the past.

Less domination equals less global revenue, equals less money in the English game, whether that's with clubs or players.
 
catcherintherye said:
I have us closer than that, but still fine. The extra 6.2m in league placings help.

Be funny is Burnley get done.
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I have us tighter then that to mate a bit of a x is the enhanced sponsorship deals and when payments is those structures fall.

Burnley would be great.

Villa are going to have to trade. They are going to struggle to maintain what they are doing.
 
Neiler said:
I have us tighter then that to mate a bit of a x is the enhanced sponsorship deals and when payments is those structures fall.

Burnley would be great.

Villa are going to have to trade. They are going to struggle to maintain what they are doing.
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Financial rules working as planned I see, Chelsea and United getting up to all kinds of hijinks, Villa moved up the table without the special dispensation United received and without resorting to selling parts of the club to themselves... But the powers that be have decided that Villa must return to whence they came, while the two mentioned can keep spending.
 
Neiler said:
I have us tighter then that to mate a bit of a x is the enhanced sponsorship deals and when payments is those structures fall.

Burnley would be great.

Villa are going to have to trade. They are going to struggle to maintain what they are doing.
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Get Onana sold to Saudi, we get a sell on.

Then we bully Burnley to sell Esteve and give them Keane. Win win.
 
Reading so many posts from people on here who are just dismayed at the way football has gone in this country. It's a sad state of affairs alright, the English game is an absolute powerhouse, and in my opinion it needs proper government legislation, and I don't mean this so-called independent regulator. I'm talking proper protection under the national heritage act or something. We've never needed the lure of Champions League football to have a strong domestic competition, but the glory hunters and others who follow the so called big six are so obsessed with competing with the top European clubs that any mention of a levelling of the playing field, such as wage caps and whatnot are met with howls of 'well, we'll just lose all the best players to European teams?' Well, so what? Are the rest of us meant to care? Serie A used to get all the best players, the premier league was still a powerhouse.


I'd like to see this de facto super league kicked in to touch and/or domestic regulation that ensures all prem clubs recieve a portion of European tv revenue.

I'd like to see mandatory drug tests for all 25 squad players after every away game. Actually, reduce squad size to 23 whilst you're at it.

I'd like to see a spending cap of sorts. Wage caps are a legal nightmare, but strong governance could ensure that all clubs have to spend 20% of turnover on facilities and/or the immediate local community. This along with a cap on what agents can earn would ensure that the vast amounts of money that pours in doesn't just end up in the pockets of individuals, instead ensuring that the actual clubs themselves and the communities they're at the heart of are actually benefitting from the ever increasing amounts of cash that are thrown around.

I'd like to see refereees with a high IQ -preferrably doctors- paid £1 million+ per season to make decisions that can have massive finacial consequences. This system we have now where they all know each other from 14 and are planning for a job at the top on err, 70k per year (good money for your average joe but it's unlikely to attract the finest minds, especially seeing as they will only earn that if they actually make it to the prem.)

Bin the 5 sub rule, stop clubs being able to stockpile players, get proper refs and bin VAR. Ther could be finacial restrictions on squads, as in 75% of wages must be spent on 50% of the squad.

There's actually loads and loads of things that could be done and English football would still thrive, but nothing much will happen, we've already sleepwalked in to this crap version of VAR and a de facto super league.
 
Tipp blue said:
Financial rules working as planned I see, Chelsea and United getting up to all kinds of hijinks, Villa moved up the table without the special dispensation United received and without resorting to selling parts of the club to themselves... But the powers that be have decided that Villa must return to whence they came, while the two mentioned can keep spending.
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The Chelsea thing is an absolute scandal mate, Utd will always be a money making machine, i don't believe half of the Ratcliffe poor mouthing.

If you look at the Chelsea profile they admitted to breaching financial rules under the Abramovich reign, doing similar things that got Rangers demoted four divisions an investigation was launched - that similarly to City doesn't have any out come. No body talks about it

The selling of he woman's team is a scandal not only did it rescue them form a PSR breach, but its also reset their parameters to have one of the strongest PSR profiles in the league now.

The PL should hang their heads in shame, Uefa have already not accepted it and charged them with non compliance, while the PL are happy to let them away with it, to continue to cultivate an international TV audience, displaying "the stars" they bring in.

Its no coincidence either that these clubs are the ones who threatened the SL break away either. dont under estimate this as part of the reason in the double standrds applied in the PL now when it comes to overall sanction and PSR.

Rotten.
 
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Season not even started and Fulham have won 10 but look to have 30 points deducted already according to the PL app 😂
 
Neiler said:
May have been posted somewhere else.

The Athethic has us with a £39 mill buffer in this PSR cycle.

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It is ludicrous really. Chelsea and man united with so much buffer. Even Brighton spent hundreds of million’s net last year but still have a buffer of that much. Forest got deducted points last season yet have a bigger buffer than us as well.

League is totally anti competitive.

And they are expecting us to be close/to breach despite all the work been done and all the debt restructuring etc
 

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