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[BirkenheadBlue]

not necessarily

One extra goal in one third of our drawn games (iirc) would have seen us in the top 4 - not exactly an unreasonably scoring rate for a decent striker that, rather than the non-factors we had playing upfront.

One extra goal in HALF our draws and we'd've been pushing 2nd place.

Those are off the top of my head and might be slightly off, but i think they're in the right ballpark

 

[Ihaters]

I still can't believe Arsene banging on about us fouling them all the time to stop them, what's he talking about? They were thugs throughout a lot of that game, and they couldn't retain the ball because we beat them fair and squre.
The amount they got away with was unreal, the foul on Lukaku when he was away down the right, Oviedo taken out near the corner flag, Arteta... well for the whole 90 minutes. We had at worst about the same amount of niggly/dirty challenges, can't stand Wenger, but for some reason, I still like Arsenal.
I think its because they pass the ball nearly as well as we do.

 

[Ihaters]

I think the difference is that Moyes talked the talk but couldn't walk the walk.

Roberto sems capable of both walking and talking.

He did though.
Martinez is better at refining the suqad, but Moyes was very good for us, no matter how much you pretend otherwise.

You don't get anywhere near the turnaround in fortunes of a club that was on its knees like we were, unless you walk the walk.

Moyes problem is the other way around. He could walk the walk, but he couldn't talk the talk, couldn't motivate us across the line to win things, couldn't raise the players expectations like Martinez can.

He would set us up decently enough, did most things right, bought the right players, but ultimately fell at the last because of his mentality.

 

[steken1]

Moyes and Redknapp are the ony managers to get a side into the top four without massive resources. Not a great man-manager, Moyes, but squeezed a lot out of scant resources.

Not many managers in the game who'd have got better finishes than him.

Shows how hghly I rate Bob that I think he'll far surpass anything Moyes 'acheived'.

 

[Khalekan]

, but ultimately fell at the last because of his mentality.

You took your time but at last the penny drops with you and you realise that everyone whom told you that was right.

He hasn't the "mentality" to compete at the higher levels.

As United fans are finding out now, the way we did over this past five years.

 

[Ihaters]

Moyes and Redknapp are the ony managers to get a side into the top four without massive resources. Not a great man-manager, Moyes, but squeezed a lot out of scant resources.

Not many managers in the game who'd have got better finishes than him.

Shows how hghly I rate Bob that I think he'll far surpass anything Moyes 'acheived'.

Agreed, Redknapp spent a decent wedge on top of a squad that had already had decent year on year investment.
Martinez seems more capable of taking the extra step which is all you can ask, Moyes built it, Martinez can use it, tweak it and make it beautiful.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Moyes and Redknapp are the ony managers to get a side into the top four without massive resources. Not a great man-manager, Moyes, but squeezed a lot out of scant resources.

Not many managers in the game who'd have got better finishes than him.

Shows how hghly I rate Bob that I think he'll far surpass anything Moyes 'acheived'.

Personally I'd say Moyes is the only one to have done it. Spurs' spending compared to ours is night and day.

 

[Khalekan]

I think Redknapp is a bad exemple.....he's more likely to bankrupt a club.

 

[Ihaters]

You took your time but at last the penny drops with you and you realise that everyone whom told you that was right.

He hasn't the "mentality" to compete at the higher levels.

As United fans are finding out now, the way we did over this past five years.

What penny?

 

[harry]

we got 4th place with 61 points. unfortunately i dont think anyone will ever get 4th with 61 points again.

 

[nigelcoyb]

He did though.
Martinez is better at refining the suqad, but Moyes was very good for us, no matter how much you pretend otherwise.

You don't get anywhere near the turnaround in fortunes of a club that was on its knees like we were, unless you walk the walk.

Moyes problem is the other way around. He could walk the walk, but he couldn't talk the talk, couldn't motivate us across the line to win things, couldn't raise the players expectations like Martinez can.

He would set us up decently enough, did most things right, bought the right players, but ultimately fell at the last because of his mentality.

Many spotted this in his euro flop games but hoped it was just an aberration, within 2 years it was a glaring definite fault and he should have gone.

How on earth he lasted 11 years with this essential flaw is an indictment of the club and it's supporters.

 

[Ihaters]

Many spotted this in his euro flop games but hoped it was just an aberration, within 2 years it was a glaring definite fault and he should have gone.

How on earth he lasted 11 years with this essential flaw is an indictment of the club and it's supporters.

Its not a sad indictment of anything.
He stayed because he's a better quality manager than you will ever accept, and finishing 6th with a decade of underfunding is not a sack worthy offense.