How will Martinez`s tenure be remembered?

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RaleighBlue said:
I'm going to be exceedingly fair here...probably wrongly. But I'm at peace with the expectation he'll be gone soon, and the season is over.

He gave us hope and pride. Which then he proved unable to deliver on, which turned us all towards anger and despair. However, largely due to the first season, when he was whispering sweet nothings in our ears and backing it up with results, he gave us a semblance of PRIDE back. Under Moyes and Kenwright we had stagnated. We were happy trying for cups, hoping for a 4th place finish, and being the 'best of the rest'. We are no longer there. We want silverware, and anything else is unacceptable. Which is precisely how it should be for Everton. 21 years without a trophy. We had every potential of learning to accept that we just can't and won't compete.

While Martinez is simply not good enough, he did, through relentless, grating, frustrating positivity remind us that Everton are winners, not also rans. Which is precisely why he isn't good enough for us. Too many were happy with 'punching above our weight' and finishing 6-8 every season. Now, confusingly, our expectations are higher. This is his positive impact.

The other way to remember him is that he simply is not a very good man manager, and he's utterly terrible with defensive tactics and should never darken our dressing room again.

I feel both of those are true. The dichotomy of Martinez: Creates hope and belief. Fails to deliver. Exits. Hopefully we show that pride and expectation and get someone in that can end our drought.
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thats good that, we do forget how much fun that first season was.
 

For me he'll be remembered as a man who had an opportunity to go down in the history books as one of Everton's greatest managers of all time. When he came in he had that personality that no one could hate. You simply loved everything about him. He indeed re opened the school of science, brought back Kendall which was a class act. He instantly took over an established set of players and altered the style which bamboozled them all in the first season.

From there on, as players got older and needed replacement, he struggled big time. He exposed his weakness last season by not having a plan B and further exposed himself this season. Sugar coating poor performances and making Baines apologize didn't do any favors. The derby and today's result was just the final nail in the coffin.
 
Martinez' tenure will go down overall as one of the worst that Everton has had to go through, granted we only briefly flirted with relegation during his reign but for a team of this calibre at his disposal that is unforgivable. If only the man wasn't a fool and realised that using the same tactic that didn't work the last 50 times isn't going to suddenly start working in the 51st instance he might have gone down as one of our greats. When last season started going south he should have left Robles in, stopped drilling his philosophy for a little while and just went back to basics with quick pass and move football to get back to winning ways.
 
faddy the blue said:
For me he'll be remembered as a man who had an opportunity to go down in the history books as one of Everton's greatest managers of all time. When he came in he had that personality that no one could hate. You simply loved everything about him. He indeed re opened the school of science, brought back Kendall which was a class act. He instantly took over an established set of players and altered the style which bamboozled them all in the first season.

From there on, as players got older and needed replacement, he struggled big time. He exposed his weakness last season by not having a plan B and further exposed himself this season. Sugar coating poor performances and making Baines apologize didn't do any favors. The derby and today's result was just the final nail in the coffin.
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That first paragraph is bang on. I remember one beautiful Saturday afternoon in the pub during his first season, we smashed West Ham away while at the same time Liverpool got beat. The Liverpool fans were streaming out at 4:40pm while us Evertonians were toasting another impressive victory courtesy of goals from Rom and a virtuoso performance from man-child Ross Barkely. It was positivity everywhere. He came in promising us Champions League and he was delivering in his first season.

Alas, it was another false dawn, ANOTHER one to build our character. But, it will all be worth it when we have moved on and built a dynasty that dominates England and Europe, top European teams quaking in their boots at the mere sound of our name.
 
I'll remember him as the village idiot who could never shut up on the sidelines. With a game that moves so quickly, how could any player gain confidence when he was always yapping on the sidelines. LVG doesn't. They make changes in tactics through subs and go from there. Ugh.
 

RaleighBlue said:
Eh, I'm drowning my sorrows, so may well be overly kind to him. And maybe the positive attitudes are Moshiri's.

But I don't remember honestly having a secret hope we could bring in Mourinho before. We had become "Moyes' Everton", Stoke, but for the brilliant management of Moyes. At least to any non-Evertonian, and I'd say quite a few blues. Now though? At least internally we have hope that things are legitimately changing for the better.
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I just remember us making a mural of him cos he got us 5th.
 
Decent chap to be fair; heart in the right place to be fair; more and more out of his depth as the season's progressed.
Two decent cup runs will not fool the vast majority of Evertonians into believing we have a great team.
 

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