Current Affairs How old were you when you grew up and stopped voting Labour?

When did you join the real world?

  • Younger than 20

    Votes: 3 20.0%
  • 20-25

    Votes: 3 20.0%
  • 25-30

    Votes: 6 40.0%
  • 30-35

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 35-40

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • 40+

    Votes: 2 13.3%

  • Total voters
    15
  • Poll closed .
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Of course, they go hand in hand. All I'm saying is that it's rare for any recession not to have unfortunate consequences. Their very nature mean things usually get worse for some people. Is it preventable? I don't know, but no one in the world has really cracked it yet.

You talk with such certainty and confidence at times and then you come out with meaningless claptrap like that. Deliberately vague and empty platitudes which tell us nothing we don't already know whilst simultaneously pointedly avoiding the question in hand.

The callous indifference of the Right to the tragic plight of some of the most vulnerable in our society is the matter in hand. Bruce's responses so far merely serve to confirm our impressions.
 
Watching more right now. What an eyeopener, and deeply moving at times.

Homelessness up 134% since 2011. For every 100 homeless six years ago, there are now 234, as far as we know.

Much of that is down to right wing ideology - not least, the abject lack of social housing, underfunding of local authorities and the vicious effects of benefit capping.
It happens every time the Tories get in.

Last time it was this bad was under Major.
 
Woman from Crisis on C4 News: "By 2010, we'd almost eradicated homelessness..."

Then the Tories got in.

From Wiki

Homeless_in_England_per_100%2C000_people_1998-2014.png
 
Oh, are you interested in homelessness again, Bruce?

Thanks for the graph - one can imagine the cheery optimism they felt in 2010 looking at that trend...

Disastrous since then, of course.

I wouldn't say it's a particular interest, but the general fallout from the recession has been something of interest. It does cast a degree of doubt on the assertion by the Crisis person that it had been eradicated by 2010 though doesn't it? That's clearly not the case, and to be honest, from the way you were talking I would have expected the graph to have seen a rise back up to the levels seen in the early 2000s, but it could be dodgy government stats (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...file/463017/201506_Statutory_Homelessness.pdf), but in 2015 the numbers were 60% down on what they were in 2003/2004. I'm sure you'd probably agree that it wouldn't be very helpful to pin the blame on Labour for that high figure, simply because they were in office at the time.
 
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