his time has come

[Sheedy's Third]

Confidence is low,but I do believe that things will get better we will have a decent midfield now with Pienarr,Billy, and Felliani back in .Players have got to start believing,and playing football!
If we lost Moyes now we would be in grave danger defo doing a Newcastle,the club would impload.I believe the season is still saveable,we are still in Europe and have the FA Cup to come. but we must win Sunday.

 

[sotnas]

Injuries play a part in it. Specially if you consider the individuals sidelined.

No manager in the world can put the available lads playing like Barcelona. Some of those guys are remotely familiarized with a football.

The most technical players are out of the squad. The ones who can play the ball around the park, who can retain possession without hoofing at first sight are not available.

Our squad comes short on that department.

Being injury free we've been able to be the best amongst the others than the top 4.

 

[sotnas]

We have enough quality to beat stoke,wolves,burnley and hull even with certain players missing and we have been 2nd best in each of them games.
The players have to fight for their shirts and not live on past glories or hide behind the injury situation.

We've never had Arteta, Pienaar, Billy and Osman available at the same time.

Don't tell me Rodwell is a world beater, cause he isn't. Cahill is suffering from not having a brain in the midfield.

Without players of this caliber and skill we can beat the likes of stoke or hull, but we are also a better prospect to be beaten from their point of view. Random comes into the match when we're relying on hoofing with no one smart or skilfull enough to give order to our game.

 

[kenada_blue]

Injuries play a part in it. Specially if you consider the individuals sidelined.

No manager in the world can put the available lads playing like Barcelona. Some of those guys are remotely familiarized with a football.

The most technical players are out of the squad. The ones who can play the ball around the park, who can retain possession without hoofing at first sight are not available.

Our squad comes short on that department.

Being injury free we've been able to be the best amongst the others than the top 4.

We cant get the basics right though. Stoke, Sunderland, Burnley are all tough teams to beat this year because they're organised, strict, well drilled and know what they're doing.

**** going forward, its trying to stop leaking in 3 goals a game and causing the opposition to try and break us down. That's what we've been known for and sadly its disappeared.

Yobo and Distin arent a good pairing IMO. Less said about the RB position the better. Rodwell doesnt insure the defence and we've no central midfielder. Teams waltz right through us without much effort.

I said last month we need to get solid and back to basics. We havent and cant for some reason.

 

[daz4matty]

We've never had Arteta, Pienaar, Billy and Osman available at the same time.

Don't tell me Rodwell is a world beater, cause he isn't. Cahill is suffering from not having a brain in the midfield.

Without players of this caliber and skill we can beat the likes of stoke or hull, but we are also a better prospect to be beaten from their point of view. Random comes into the match when we're relying on hoofing with no one smart or skilfull enough to give order to our game.

Even with our injuries like isaid we should not lose to burnley and hull
and draw at home to stoke and wolves.
Just look at the hull line up last night it was championship standard
even with heitinga,rodwell,cahill,saha,yakubu and pienaar we should be beating them easily.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

We cant get the basics right though. Stoke, Sunderland, Burnley are all tough teams to beat this year because they're organised, strict, well drilled and know what they're doing.

**** going forward, its trying to stop leaking in 3 goals a game and causing the opposition to try and break us down. That's what we've been known for and sadly its disappeared.

Yobo and Distin arent a good pairing IMO. Less said about the RB position the better. Rodwell doesnt insure the defence and we've no central midfielder. Teams waltz right through us without much effort.

I said last month we need to get solid and back to basics. We havent and cant for some reason.

This. Getting sick of hearing about injuries, especially when the players we have out there have played regularly together all season, are internationals, experienced professionals. Basic schoolboy errors are occurring.

Simple passing, lack of concentration, lack of desire, fight, bottle, and so on...

There is no guarantee when Pienaar, Arteta and Jags return we will be a team again. We got to 4th spot by just getting on with it and showing some fighting spirit. Something that is lacking in 90% of the side Moyes puts out.

 

[gkpaul]

You cant just rule out all the injuries as a main factor why we are like we are at the moment. It leads to other things which all contribute.

Loads of lads out, important players like. Ok, we have coped before, but the team carries on then more players get injured, the teams weaker. Other players fill in the results start going against us and then CONFIDENCE starts to drop. Confidence is almost as important as being fit, players start to worry about mistakes and end up actually making more as they just don't have that spark to try something different in case it goes wrong. Its a snowball effect really, injury list gets longer, results start to go against us, the players confidence starts to go, their human after all.

Something needs to happen to spark the team to life, just look at last year, we started badly then had that result against United. That tackle from Neville and we get a result that we were not likely to get. Then the team starts to believe and we went on from strength to strength and made the cup final!

I watch Everton now and see a team playing with no confidence what so ever, but have to admit it is hard to see where that spark will come from at the moment!

Hear loads of people saying Moyes has to go, but not yet recalling anyone saying who he should be replaced with though. Think about it, who exactly do you think could come in and do a better job? I think it will have to be someone with a huge amount of cash to be able to inject into the side to get anywhere near changing the sides fortunes like Davey has with the few brass buttons hes had.

 

[sotnas]

Even with our injuries like isaid we should not lose to burnley and hull
and draw at home to stoke and wolves.
Just look at the hull line up last night it was championship standard
even with heitinga,rodwell,cahill,saha,yakubu and pienaar we should be beating them easily.

I didn't watch the game so I can't comment on what really happened on the pitch.

But one thing I know, and there is no need to be a genius, when we're short on good players opponents fear us less and our own players lose confidence. It happens everywhere.

I know something about Cahill's style and he seems one of those whose performances suffer when he hasn't someone by his side who can allow his runs. He's no organizer. In the same manner I rate Fellaini, although he really disappointed me in both matches against benfica.

When we look at our midfield there is no one to control the game on the ball. Pienaar has just came up from injury. It'll take time for him to regain his potential level.

Billy is still settling. Arteta gone for ages and we didn't bring anyone for cover. Osman, most underrated player from the squad IMHO. These guys can make good use of the ball. Like some of you guys said we have to get the basics right. Passing the ball and keep possession is in my opinion one of those basics that we are not doing right.

When we don't have means to keep the ball it will be easier for the opponents to put us under pressure. They'll make us be on the back foot for longer periods of time.

The Yak and Saha. Good strikers but with no service they are as harmless as a pussycat.

Last season I was able watch our game at Villa Park and I thought that with a proper midfield who could spray some nice passes around we would have slaughtered Villa in the counter. Poor decisions were made on those key pass that could put a player face to face with the goalie.

I think this season the absences make our problems more thick on that department.

Still I think the manager hasn't been able to do much wrong, simply beacause I doubt anyone could do anything different from our career right now.

 

[Axlswhk]

In the post match interview, Moyes was asked if he's aware of rumour on Merseyside that he was preparing to stand down. He shot back "Do you live on Merseyside?"
When asked if he was prepared to comment on the rumour, he flatly said "No."

 

[faddy the blue]

its isn't moyes'fault. What the hell is he supposed to do when sylvin distin plays like a school boy and we can't complete a 10 yard pass properly.
saw how the yak was way too lazy? saw how distin couldn't clear it? saw how even pienaar couldn't pass it within 10 yards in the first half/

the players are so ruster with their passing maybe cuz they train all day practising long balls...which they still can't do properly. Even wigan when losing 6-1 were still passing it atleast properly with the lowest confidence.

 

[Axlswhk]

Of course we cant blame any bad pass on moyes. In that case we also cant give moyes credit when our striker score 4 goals.
Then we have to ask ourselves is moyes redundant?
Its a team game, players and manager play their part to make the team successful.
Cant believe Moyes has NO fault at all.

 

[sotnas]

Of course we cant blame any bad pass on moyes. In that case we also cant give moyes credit when our striker score 4 goals.
Then we have to ask ourselves is moyes redundant?
Its a team game, players and manager play their part to make the team successful.
Cant believe Moyes has NO fault at all.

Probably he has. But looking at the set up we have right now would SAF do any better? I heard he's no master mind in trainig methods.

 

[Robert Jarvis]

It would seem that too many were just going through the motions to get their multi thousand weekly pay packet. So in the first instance Moyes should dock some of their wages. The performance against Hull was just not good enough.

Perhaps Moyes hould look hard at those players and start thinking do I want these lot at the club. But one also has to say who signed these players, is the managers judgment at fault. I do not think getting Distin was a good move, it was desperation because on paper we only had one fit CB, the hoofball specialist. Money shouls have been spent on getting Cahill, or Shawcross or Upson rather than Distin and Heittinga. AS for Heittinga, okay he is an international but at Everton to me he seems to be a player that does not have a position to fit into the team. Bily is the only half decent signing in the summer. Neill was free, no other club wanted him, waste of wages.

Dare I say for example it is time to say goodbye to Timmy, thanks for all the service. Unfortunately we cannot get rid of Fellaini because what club out there would give any where near 15 mill for him. Add to that is Pienaar now looking to an exit strategy?

Seems Moyes needs to take stock and be prepared to forget favouritism and make some tough decisions.