Current Affairs Her majesty the Queen

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To those of you that mourn her I offer my sympathies. I understand there are mixed feelings toward the monarchy in the UK and it is of course the same in Ireland. I, and others over here, appreciate her visit to Croke Park in Dublin in 2011 where 91 years prior 14 Gaelic footballer where shot by British forces. There was opposition to her visit from some quarters here, and likely across the water too, but she nonetheless had a peaceful point to make. She carried a lot of history on her shoulders that day and did so admirably. R.I.P
 
I am not against a bit of respect for her passing away and get its big news as most people have only known her on the throne.

But even the North Koreans are probably thinking this is a bit OTT.

The only reason people have been thinking about her these days is her age and her using public money for helping an accused pedophile, and beforehand her shunning of a black person and a less posh blonde lady

Surely no one cared about her in the mid 80's and early 90's
 
Jesus. You can’t get away from it. Artificial sentiment. Relentless grief porn TV coverage. How kin depressing. Get on with it FFS
People on facebook and the likes saying they will unfriend people if they say anything bad about her.

I have no strong feelings about her one way or the other really but some people have something missing in their lives if they are proper grieving over it. It's weird behaviour.

Taking away all the monarchy stuff and their transgressions etc it's quite grim to see that in a time which should be very personal to her family there are cameras getting shoved in their faces etc. For the fmaily it should be personal, for the "subjects" it should merely be a news story.
 
She was a child who was trafficked. You sound like the worst sort of apologist for this behaviour.

God help us. The lengths people go to defend the Queen is astonishing. They will argue peadophilia is acceptable on a technicality.

They hosted events with Epstein and Maxwell. But that's fine as well no doubt.

Horrendous. As is paying off someone accusing your son of raping a minor, who had been trafficked for sex as a child. That you try to make any defence, is absolutely disgusting.
Far from it, but I do have an issue with people labelling people something and accepting it as true (guilt) without the correct due process.

I'll tell you why: I know of a case in a Liverpool school back in the 90s where a male caretaker was accused of a sexual assault (rape) on a young pupil.

Even when the legislation at the time required complete anonymity, it soon became known that he was a 'rapist' and was banished by his wife and family.

He, because of the colour of skin, received little legal support and Merpol were seeing an easy case. Only the support of one wealthy family member helped.

Only by the hard work of the defence, paid for by said family member, was it found that the allegations were complete fabrications and the case dropped.

This gentleman lost his job and lives with that slur to this day, so I have a strong belief that people shouldn't be judged without the correct procedures.

Was that family member vile, horrible and scum for defending their family member? If you think so, let's just go and have drumhead trials and lynchings.

But back to Andrew... It was as civil case looking for damages rather than criminal, which is subtly different. One wants damages (money) the other is the state.

To go to trial would have required evidence in public court, and maybe that's the reason they paid up. It may not have been, but we really do not know.

Virginia Wade was trafficked and Epstine and Maxwell have been criminally cried for that, and rightfully so. To the best of my knowledge, Andrew hasn't.*

You've decided he's guilty and that's your prerogative, however from experience dealing with numerous vile cases I feel it's important.

I have moral questions about the Queen's actions, yet settling out of court guilty.

*By the way, would I trust him around my daughters? No chance.
 
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