Head injuries* stopping games/counter attacks

[GoldenToffee]

Just do a mandatory five-minute recovery period off the field, no immediate concussion sub allowed in that time, plus a mandatory VAR check of the incident that led to the player claiming injury.

Yes genuinely injured players will see their teams unfairly suffer for five minutes, but if there has been any dangerous play by the opposition VAR can act.

Those playacting will cause their team to suffer and hopefully it would stop them cheating in the future.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Can see the rugby league cross armed indication of 'review' being implemented for stuff like this.

Winning and three points or cup advancements is one side of it, but there's clubs going to the wire because of cheating and rule manipulations.

This league couldn't be arsed counting a goal a few seasons back that would have altered who was relegated, similar the tevez mascherano third party illegal owners that saved west ham way back when. It's millions of pounds, and thousands of associated jobs (the chain around games, match days, security, training facilities, policing and transport, tv and media, burger wagons, pints in pubs, program printers, clean up after).

game stops for head injuries should see every potential injury taken off the field. None of this getting up all ok when the games been stopped.

 

[Pootsy]

Any player rolling around clutching a part of their body is obviously in dire straits*. Therefore should be removed from the field immediately for examination. If the player will not be returning to the field of play then they can be tended to at the side of the pitch until the ball goes dead and their team regain possession. Until then they remain off the pitch with their team now a man down.

If its a genuine injury then the player can be replaced with immediate effect.

*awaits a GIF from Reets of Knopfler wearing some togger gear.

 

[pfim]

Just do a mandatory five-minute recovery period off the field, no immediate concussion sub allowed in that time, plus a mandatory VAR check of the incident that led to the player claiming injury.

Yes genuinely injured players will see their teams unfairly suffer for five minutes, but if there has been any dangerous play by the opposition VAR can act.

Those playacting will cause their team to suffer and hopefully it would stop them cheating in the future.

Agreed, remove them from the field for 5 minutes, it will stop. Players who truly do need the treatment and evaluation should take more than the time they're lying on the pitch plus the 5 minutes anyway.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Any player rolling around clutching a part of their body is obviously in dire straits*. Therefore should be removed from the field immediately for examination. If the player will not be returning to the field of play then they can be tended to at the side of the pitch until the ball goes dead and their team regain possession. Until then they remain off the pitch with their team now a man down.

If its a genuine injury then the player can be replaced with immediate effect.

*awaits a GIF from Reets of Knopfler wearing some togger gear.

I'll spare you. Where a genuine accident or injury has occurred, VAR is there to magnify the issue. Not every bump and bruise requires a card, and players willing to play on through a concussion need saving from themselves.

The immediate game authority is required to work in unison as a unit. It's not all penalty calls and punitive actions.

Once again, the game relies on the experience, the knowledge, the joined up thinking and in-game know how to be an authority and respected as such...

 

[Pootsy]

I'll spare you. Where a genuine accident or injury has occurred, VAR is there to magnify the issue. Not every bump and bruise requires a card, and players willing to play on through a concussion need saving from themselves.

The immediate game authority is required to work in unison as a unit. It's not all penalty calls and punitive actions.

Once again, the game relies on the experience, the knowledge, the joined up thinking and in-game know how to be an authority and respected as such...

It was a simple request Reets

 

[Rita_Poon]

It was a simple request Reets

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Gif's move smarty pants.

 

[Pootsy]

Gif's move smarty pants.

Touche

 

[mahermi1]

With head injury protocols being abused by players to force referees to stop games and thus prevent counter attacks, what can be done?

Concussion subs are available and two are free to use outside of the permitted 5 subs per game allowance.

For me, when a player goes down holding his head or face then if the ref is to stop the game the player goes off the field for a minimum 90 seconds and the game restarts, unless a concussion sub is used, in which case the 90 seconds stands and then the new player is allowed on.

This 'magic sponge' era stuff of...

• challenge for the header
• lose
• fall over clutching face/head
• ref forced to stop game for stricken player
• sudden recovery
• players stays on, opposition lose out on overload/quicker player released/counter

Enough is enough. Referee's ought to be calling this perversion out, seeing as they know the game so well and their experience and authority can be relied upon without fail...

Don't know if this is what you meant but, just do what they do in Rugby league, stop the clock. Same for throw ins/ corners and free kicks, no need for extra time as clock is stopped ref blows up at 45 and 90.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Don't know if this is what you meant but, just do what they do in Rugby league, stop the clock. Same for throw ins/ corners and free kicks, no need for extra time as clock is stopped ref blows up at 45 and 90.

When something contentious happens, the ref makes a specific signal for refs after the game to check an event. Goes to the panel and often naughty or worse play is penalised.

 

[RomanReigns]

this is coming in for the world cup this summer

Five-second countdown on throw-ins and goal kicks​

Throw-ins and goal kicks must be taken within five seconds. If it takes longer, the other team gets possession.

Substitutions must take 10 seconds or less​

Substituted players must leave the field within 10 seconds. If they don’t, their replacement must wait at least one minute before entering.

Injured players must leave the field for at least a minute​

Players who receive medical treatment must leave the field for one minute before returning to play.

Video assistant referee (VAR) can now review second yellow cards and corner kicks​

 

[RomanReigns]

so basically if someone fakes a head injury, they will have to receive medical treatment and will have to be off the pitch for 1 minute

that's their 'punishment' i guess to the greatest extent of the law that a referee can give

 

[Rita_Poon]

so basically if someone fakes a head injury, they will have to receive medical treatment and will have to be off the pitch for 1 minute

that's their 'punishment' i guess to the greatest extent of the law that a referee can give

Be fascinating to know what trauma specialists and first responders consider an adequate amount of time to check for concussion and signs of head/brain injury...

 

[perth_blue]

Be fascinating to know what trauma specialists and first responders consider an adequate amount of time to check for concussion and signs of head/brain injury...

In Aussie Rules (where head knocks are frequent) the player who receives a blow to the head (tackle, fall, whatever) is off for a mandatory 15 minute medical assessment, where club doctors make the decision as to whether he can play on, or is withdrawn and misses the next match.

 

[pfim]

In Aussie Rules (where head knocks are frequent) the player who receives a blow to the head (tackle, fall, whatever) is off for a mandatory 15 minute medical assessment, where club doctors make the decision as to whether he can play on, or is withdrawn and misses the next match.

I don't think they put a time on it in the NFL, but they have to go to the tent and be evaluated. It's certainly more than a minute to be evaluated.