Guardiola to be found out in the premier league

[Walken]

Do you not think he gets cherry picked because he's good mate?
Because teams know that if they give him the money he's gonna provide a title or at least trophies?

he started off at barca, with messi, xavi and iniesta coming through, they were comfortably in the top two and real were on the way down, he still did very well and created a lasting legacy, fair play, but he had HUGE advantages, at bayern he took over the best team in europe, their only domestic competition had been picked apart, he made them worse, he's now at city and doing well, i'm full of admiration for him getting the best out of a player I love watching in John Stones, but he's not won anything yet, so everyone creaming themselves about city before they get past xmas is a little premature, plus again he has huge advantages.

I'm not saying he isn't a top manager who has has done well, but I've more admiration for simone or jose, I'd actually say what Klopp did at dortmund was more impressive, pep hasn't re-invented the wheel, he's done well at clubs that have been in the top two financially in their leagues and had significant advantages beyond that. He's also a bellend who dresses like he's just watched green street for the first time, and has a legion of fanboys that need antagonizing at every opportunity I can find

 

[Prevenger17]

messi, xavi and iniesta

When Pep came in, Xavi was about to be sold to Juve, Messi and Iniesta were incredibly talented players but still hadn't reached anywhere close to their potential. Their greatness looks like a foregone conclusion now but only with the benefit of hindsight.

That Barca team finished trophyless and almost 20 points behind Madrid the season before, but Pep promoted a few young players, offloaded Ronaldinho and Deco and spent relatively very little to win an unprecedented treble. Pep was as responsible for the career trajectories of Messi and Iniesta as they were for his imo.

He is a complete tosser though, I agree with that

 

[Walken]

When Pep came in, Xavi was about to be sold to Juve, Messi and Iniesta were incredibly talented players but still hadn't reached anywhere close to their potential. Their greatness looks like a foregone conclusion now but only with the benefit of hindsight.

That Barca team finished trophyless and almost 20 points behind Madrid the season before, but Pep promoted a few young players, offloaded Ronaldinho and Deco and spent relatively very little to win an unprecedented treble. Pep was as responsible for the career trajectories of Messi and Iniesta as they were for his imo.

He is a complete tosser though, I agree with that

aye, dead impressive that he managed to get a tune out of messi, what a revolutionary

 

[Prevenger17]

aye, dead impressive that he managed to get a tune out of messi, what a revolutionary

Bojan was the next Messi at one point. These mercurial talents, more often than not, can go quite the opposite direction without the right management and guidance. Bow to Pep, your hipster King

 

[Walken]

Bojan was the next Messi

okay dokie

 

[cityfanrob]

at bayern he took over the best team in europe, their only domestic competition had been picked apart, he made them worse,

Don't think many Bayern fans would agree with that

I'm not saying he isn't a top manager who has has done well, but I've more admiration for simone or jose, I'd actually say what Klopp did at dortmund was more impressive, pep hasn't re-invented the wheel, he's done well at clubs that have been in the top two financially in their leagues and had significant advantages beyond that.

Neither have the others you named but it's pretty obvious Pep has done more to advance football tactics than any of them.

As for getting into his dress sense lol That ones best left to the fanboys/hateboys

 

[Walken]

Don't think many Bayern fans would agree with that



Neither have the others you named but it's pretty obvious Pep has done more to advance football tactics than any of them.

As for getting into his dress sense lol That ones best left to the fanboys/hateboys

wrong I'm afraid, there's not a bayern fan that doesn't consider the arrogant whopper pep inferior to heynekes

 

[cityfanrob]

Well you're right there, there's not A Bayern fan that doesn't consider that there's fecking loads of them

 

[Walken]

Well you're right there, there's not A Bayern fan that doesn't consider that there's fecking loads of them

so you think bayern fans in majority regard fraudiola's bayern as superior to heynekes?

 

[Walken]

two insanely lucky goals, and a cast iron penalty against them denied, but rights they should have a maximum of 3 points from the last four games, can still see the wheels coming off at xmas

 

[Cellardweller]

two insanely lucky goals, and a cast iron penalty against them denied, but rights they should have a maximum of 3 points from the last four games, can still see the wheels coming off at xmas

Thought I was on red cafe for a moment. We'll win the league no problems

 

[Prevenger17]

he started off at barca, with messi, xavi and iniesta coming through, they were comfortably in the top two

They finished third the season before. Real won by 18 points

 

[Walken]

They finished third the season before. Real won by 18 points

3rd to 1st, wow

 

[roydo]

Pep has done more to advance football tactics than any of them.

Sake. It wasnt that long ago that City fans were banging on about how they had reinvented club finances. Now it is give a coach half a billion pounds and they have reinvented football. Utter mutants.

 

[stony]

Never felt more like singing the blues..........