Group C: Argentina, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Poland

[Lobster Johnson]

Totally respect that, I wasn't going to watch but don't have the fortitude to swerve.

What's the documentary name? I loved that world cup, not least because the teams were genuinely unknown to me by and large. Different world, different sport, would go back there in a heartbeat.

Don't see the Saudis seeing this one out.

Its called Green Lions.

Fair warning, a lot of subtitles. So not one to have in the background.

 

[GoldenToffee]

I mean you could right? Like hypothetically someone has Messi's career at club level but is from Barbados you can't just take them out?

Got to win it all for me. Look at Messi here, he's not doing well, and he's not done well generally at international level when it counts.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Both Ronaldo and Messi gonna end their respective international careers without a World Cup to their names. Surely cannot be deemed GOAT without that.

They play for big countries too

Someone like George Best gets some leeway, as does George Weah

Messi and Ronaldo both played for nations who have always had a chance at winning it

 

[trueblue84]

I'm just not seeing it lads

Call me a wide eyed optimist, but I genuinely think this is down more to cack officiating than it is dodginess

However, I will sit on the fence a bit longer so I can say I always agreed with you guys just in case something obviously dodgy happens

I'm not saying FIFA are determining the results, but they are creating "moments" in games and narratives which can sometimes end up influencing results. I don't think it is too far of a stretch.

Remember, FIFA control the TV rights and what gets shown. They have been found out in the past for showing clips of fans from different games to sell a narrative. If I rember correctly, they showed a woman crying in the crowd at a match, but the woman came out to say she wasn't even at that game and they'd used a clip of her from a previous match.

 

[MikeH72]

As I'm a massive saddo, I've just taken that screengrab into AutoCAD, and using trigonometry and fractional spacing, drawn as accurate lines as I can.

Yes, I am fun at parties.

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Hey, I got told by an objective super knowledgeable and experienced soccer fan that it was offside because squeaky clean never before corrupt FIFA said so.

 

[MichaelEFC96]

Didn’t know Sean Bean managed the Saudi’s. Mad that

 

[CrustySack]

So he isn’t a good player anymore because his team have conceded two goals to an unfancied side? Maradona won every single game?

Maradona only won a World Cup on his own like.

 

[GoldenToffee]

I'd be getting that De Paul off - he's been woeful. No idea who he is or who he plays for domestically, but he's been rubbish here.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Got to win it all for me. Look at Messi here, he's not doing well, and he's not done well generally at international level when it counts.

He has though, I mean he was the best player in 2014 and they lost the final to a really great side. I feel like careers shouldn't be defined on a random 90 minutes but that's for another time.

 

[Wat Tyler]

Both Ronaldo and Messi gonna end their respective international careers without a World Cup to their names. Surely cannot be deemed GOAT without that.

Can’t understand takes like this. They’ve both won international tournaments never mind the countless other trophies

 

[Wat Tyler]

Maradona only won a World Cup on his own like.

Amazing player but this is a myth

 

[ToffeeTim]

What on earth has happened since half time

 

[evilwebby]

Feels like Argentina have been crushed under the weight of expectation at every world cup ever since GOAT '86

 

[heatmeiser]

Well anyway this should be a cracking last 15 minutes.

 

[GoldenToffee]

Where would this rank on all-time World Cup upsets? Got to be right up there. 3rd in the FIFA rankings against 51st.