Group A: Germany, Scotland, Hungary, Switzerland

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

How are Scotland so horrendous at football?

I mean, the socialist side of me questions their investment in grass roots but having Scottish friends I know this isn’t the case, they’re footy mad and you only have to see those two clubs fight over a church to see it.

And this is coming from an Everton and English person.

They do just fine for the size and type of country they are. Short of having a world class player come through (like Wales did with Bale), this is their level.

 

[dublinbluenose]

They do just fine for the size and type of country they are. Short of having a world class player come through (like Wales did with Bale), this is their level.

I've been told 'Robbo' is world class

 

[MikeH72]

They do just fine for the size and type of country they are. Short of having a world class player come through (like Wales did with Bale), this is their level.

They have had many world class players over the years such as Dalglish, Souness, Law, Hansen, and have still never progressed from the group stage of a tournament.

Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland had no world class players when they progressed through the groups in 2016.

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

They have had many world class players over the years such as Dalglish, Souness, Law, Hansen, and have still never progressed from the group stage of a tournament.

Were those players world class? I’m too young to have ever seen them play.

 

[Nightman]

If this game went on for another 6 hours there still wouldn't be a goal

I bet there will be some hugh losses on Betfair Exchange by backing the draw late in the game. Must have gone very close to 1/100. People trying to buy money.

As you say, never looked possible.

 

[Abertonian]

Tbh mate I thought you would win tonight, i expected kitchen sink, it’s Hungary ffs such a great chance.really really poor performance

Manager can't set up for anything other than 10 men behind the ball. Very poor tonight and against Germany but he's only changed the team when forced to. A few showed they were capable of doing something when the came on. Shankland offered far more than Adams but he doesn't suit the backs to the wall style Clarke wants.

Been garbage all my life so expectations are aligned with that experience

 

[Drico]

Were those players world class? I’m too young to have ever seen them play.

Yes, they were.

Dalglish was superb, one of the very best forwards in Europe for a decade. But he never did it for Scotland at the World Cup, despite playing in and scoring in three. He was never the same player for Scotland in a finals as he was for Liverpool.

Souness was also superb. He, funnily enough, is precisely the kind of player England currently do not have and badly need: the fella who takes the ball - demands the ball - from the back four, knits up the play, dominates the middle of the pitch, and chips in with a few goals. A marvelous all-round midfield player. You didn't play as a foreigner in Italy in the 1980s unless you were special. He was there with Falcao, Platini, Socrates, and Brady.

Law also played in Italy and is legendary. Hansen is, arguably, the most over-rated of the four, but he was integral to that Liverpool side who were one of the very best in Europe for a decade. His record rests on those European Cups and his domestic performances. He never really did it for Scotland - as his ridiculous collision with Willie Miller in the 1982 World Cup match with the USSR attests.

*Inserts bar of soap in mouth*

 

[The Celtic View]

WHAT?!?!?

See post #1,765

 

[MikeH72]

See post #1,765

Mate you couldn’t muster an attack to speak of, that’s not what taking the game to the opposition is.

 

[The Celtic View]

By actually trying to play on the counter and trying to score?

Having the most passes between your two CBs for a full game is proper Roberto Martinez crab football - loads of the ball and no idea what to do with it and no directness.

I'm not saying Scotland constantly attacked, and I agree they had no clue as to how to break down the Hungarian defence, but they went forward more than Hungary.

 

[Goat]

 

[BlueStevie35]

Only home nation to NEVER progress from a group in their history. Utterly shameful. Higher population than all of the others too.

What makes it funnier, is that Wales hadn’t played in a tournament for 58 years and never a Euros, but got to the semis first time of asking in 2016 and the Last 16 in 2020 while Northern Ireland hadn’t in 30 years and also never a Euros and got to the last 16 at the 2016 tournament (beaten by Wales), Scotland have done back to back Euros and come away with a record of 0 wins, 2 draws and 4 defeats scoring only 3 goals

 

[The Celtic View]

Henry's was definitely better. He denied Ireland being able to compete in a tournament, Maradona was going to win that game for Argentina regardless. Scotland's biggest victories on the international scene are always somebody else's.

Seeing as you brought Ireland into things, I believe some Irish lads have a saying 'Our day will come'?

I'll bide my time until later in the tournament. He who laughs last, and all that.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Seeing as you brought Ireland into things, I believe some Irish lads have a saying 'Our day will come'?

I'll bide my time until later in the tournament. He who laughs last, and all that.

Ireland aren't in the tournament, they can keep on biding their time but they're not gonna make a special appearance in the quarter finals so I dunno when that laugh will happen.

 

[The Celtic View]

Ireland aren't in the tournament, they can keep on biding their time but they're not gonna make a special appearance in the quarter finals so I dunno when that laugh will happen.

I'll be laughing. What the Irish do is up to them, though I expect they'll have a chuckle too.