GOT SPEAKS: Do you think Everton is a well run football club?

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Artetafan said:
I think I've managed to break a record for most typos in a post, like. Jesus, it's barely english.
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I think what I'm trying to say is, whereas one poll was questions asked to intentionally seem negative (SOS1878) and the other with questions designed to be quite friendly to the club's image (The original poll), this is meant to be a straight down the middle, are you happy or not sort of question.

It'll probably get ignored by most like but I can only try!
 
bluejock said:
Pretty good summary of the situation to be fair.

I'd say average would be a bit kind but I suppose it could be much, much worse.
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Cheers, kind of based it on this finance table where we seem, well.. average.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/may/19/football-club-accounts-debt

If anything we are slightly above (6th-10th best) in just about every financial aspect.. although that is 2011 not last year. The recent recognition for the excellent services the club provide week in week out, in the recent PL poll don't hurt either, we are clearly better than most clubs at the - less vital to the club but equally important to the fans - areas.
Hard to go with anything less than average for me.

They still have to go of course.. no matter what they do they can never be forgiven for Kings Dock for a start, but in terms of running the club on a day to day basis, we're not particularly well or badly run.
 
bluejock said:
I think what I'm trying to say is, whereas one poll was questions asked to intentionally seem negative (SOS1878) and the other with questions designed to be quite friendly to the club's image (The original poll), this is meant to be a straight down the middle, are you happy or not sort of question.

It'll probably get ignored by most like but I can only try!
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The sample size is small, though. And any poll where the users have to search it out rather than other way around is biased.

For me, you either ask punters at the ground or you don't get a fair reflection.
 
Artetafan said:
The sample size is small, though. And any poll where the users have to search it out rather than other way around is biased.

For me, you either ask punters at the ground or you don't get a fair reflection.
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I've put it on Twitter like.

Might need someone to paint it on the wall of the Park End car park.
 
bluejock said:
I think what I'm trying to say is, whereas one poll was questions asked to intentionally seem negative (SOS1878) and the other with questions designed to be quite friendly to the club's image (The original poll), this is meant to be a straight down the middle, are you happy or not sort of question.

It'll probably get ignored by most like but I can only try!
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Honestly, short of Ipsos MORI working out a way to turn angry blues into gold and funding a dedicated panel, we're unlikely to see a study that isn't very statistically wonky. It's not in the board's interest to finance a decent survey using all of their different data sources (ticket sales, club store purchases, fan club memberships, etc) to create a representative sample, and anyone other than a potential investor (if only) isn't going to have the time, resources or inclination to put something watertight together.

Worth doing as a matter of interest like, and there's nothing wrong with the design of the question.
 
Artetafan said:
The sample size is small, though. And any poll where the users have to search it out rather than other way around is biased.

For me, you either ask punters at the ground or you don't get a fair reflection.
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Completely misses out those who can't afford, or choose not to go to the game though, which is going to bias your sample. Really needs to be compiled from multiple sources and scaled to be representative, which would be a massive undertaking. For starters, there's no census of Average Evertonians to fit it to.
 
Artetafan said:
The sample size is small, though. And any poll where the users have to search it out rather than other way around is biased.

For me, you either ask punters at the ground or you don't get a fair reflection.
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Automatically excluding the people who refuse to put a penny into the club until kenwright has gone.

A clear attempt at trying to fix the result if you ask me.:dodgy:
 
bluejock said:
I've put it on Twitter like.

Might need someone to paint it on the wall of the Park End car park.
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But again you have to be searching twitter for everton to find it. So by itself you've selected evertonians by their level of activity online thus introducing bias from the off.

To get a truly random sample, you have to approach them not have them apprach you.

Again to go back to the kenwright thread, 322,833 views and 400 votes tells you everything you need to know. Because if only 400 out of the thousands of people to read the thread feel inclined to vote then you're preselcting in favour of the outspoken and invested.

Which is why marketing people don't trust data from forums, because the people are use them are more invested then the average consumer so you have a self selecting base that doesn't reflect the entire fanbase. Forums, whether based on football or tv or politics or video games, rarely reflect consumer purchases accurately.
 
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