Goodison in the 1980s

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They certainly knew how to keep the groups apart and if you tried anything and they were around they were not averse to give you a beating. As for spurs went most of the 70s and early 80s. The last time in the 80s was 85 when we basically won the league. The long walk back to seven sisters was always an adventure. Police didn't have a clue. Yr lot would cross over now and again to say hi, the police would just Shu you away m. Then we would do the same. Would have been arrested just for looking at each other up here.

That walk back to Seven Sisters that night was a bit scary, with the Spurs lot in a mean mood, shouting 'scouse' , which was hard not to respond with a look.
 
I started going in the boys pen in about the mid1950s and was mostly in there until I graduated to the big boys in the Gwladys. I honestly don't remember any trouble in the pen and never felt unsafe.
There wasn't much, if any trouble anywhere round the ground up until I stopped going at the end of 1960 - to Oz - unless my memory's playing tricks.
I do remember that there was a lot of trouble on trains to and from aways, though. We blamed Reds and they blamed us.
Never saw the logic in that, but there you go.
 
I started going in the boys pen in about the mid1950s and was mostly in there until I graduated to the big boys in the Gwladys. I honestly don't remember any trouble in the pen and never felt unsafe.
There wasn't much, if any trouble anywhere round the ground up until I stopped going at the end of 1960 - to Oz - unless my memory's playing tricks.
I do remember that there was a lot of trouble on trains to and from aways, though. We blamed Reds and they blamed us.
Never saw the logic in that, but there you go.
Not sure about the 50s but late 60s in the boys pen was survival of the fittest not super violence just lads getting picked off with give us all yr money. If not a quick punch or kick and your money came out quick time. As you got a bit older you could fight back more.
As for trouble at goodison the only team that really brought fans in any numbers were united and city early seventies. Think about 71 there was a report on the regional news about trouble at an Everton United game. United fans got hammered on their way back to lime Street. London clubs didn't bother except Millwall in the cup.in 72 and we know what happened there.
Regular trouble in mid 70s when the park end had mad blues and away support together with a line of police in the way but outside goodison it could be mad. Regular violence and slashing of away fans made goodison a feared place.
Away games you had to stick together as well or face the consequences.
Police got their act together and then the courts. Mostly stopped it. You could be put away for 3 years just for getting into a bit of a punch up. Who wants that.
 
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Yeah they were the same Walrus/Handlebars,same I dont remember anywhere else having those sticks or any other force that actually enjoyed wading in like they did
Still have them but only the seniors carry them. Originally designed to be cracked on the cobbled street to alert the nearest colleague to trouble. But I suppose the whistle also worked.

Perhaps they were always used as a weapon back in the day.
 
Not sure about the 50s but late 60s in the boys pen was survival of the fittest not super violence just lads getting picked off with give us all yr money. If not a quick punch or kick and your money came out quick time. As you got a bit older you could fight back more.
As for trouble at goodison the only team that really brought fans in any numbers were united and city early seventies. Think about 71 there was a report on the regional news about trouble at an Everton United game. United fans got hammered on their way back to lime Street. London clubs didn't bother except Millwall in the cup.in 72 and we know what happened there.
Regular trouble in mid 70s when the park end had mad blues and away support together with a line of police in the way but outside goodison it could be mad. Regular violence and slashing of away fans made goodison a feared place.
Away games you had to stick together as well or face the consequences.
Police got their act together and then the courts. Mostly stopped it. You could be put away for 3 years just for getting into a bit of a punch up. Who wants that.
I went to the United match at Goodison early in 1971. My wife came because she wanted to see George Best ( not because she likes football :)) and there was
no trouble at all. It was midweek and we won 1-0. I saw Everton home and away 28 times in 1970/71 and early 1971/72 and the only time we had trouble was at West Ham in the ground before kick off. Hammes fans came around to the away end but we sent them away, no problems and not a punch thrown.
 
Not sure about the 50s but late 60s in the boys pen was survival of the fittest not super violence just lads getting picked off with give us all yr money. If not a quick punch or kick and your money came out quick time. As you got a bit older you could fight back more.
As for trouble at goodison the only team that really brought fans in any numbers were united and city early seventies. Think about 71 there was a report on the regional news about trouble at an Everton United game. United fans got hammered on their way back to lime Street. London clubs didn't bother except Millwall in the cup.in 72 and we know what happened there.

I remember a game at Goodison against United in the early/mid eighties when it was literally kicking off all round the ground, apart from the Gwladys St!
We were sat in the Main Stand and watched as a whole load of them in the Upper Bullens left their seats and suddenly reappeared in the Upper Bullens down towards the St End. They were in the Park End, and in the paddock below the Main Stand from the paddock they were trying to climb up into the Main Stand! It was going off all round Goodison in about four or five places at once!
Have quite a vivid picture in my mind of the Police in the Main Stand standing there literally give them a wallop or a “friendly” prod as their heads appeared over the top of the wall and knocking them back into the paddock. If they didn’t get knocked back they got dragged over the top and hauled off!
 
I went to the United match at Goodison early in 1971. My wife came because she wanted to see George Best ( not because she likes football :)) and there was
no trouble at all. It was midweek and we won 1-0. I saw Everton home and away 28 times in 1970/71 and early 1971/72 and the only time we had trouble was at West Ham in the ground before kick off. Hammes fans came around to the away end but we sent them away, no problems and not a punch thrown.
This game I'm.on about was a Saturday game against United. Early 70s. I was only young. Remember a huge mob of Everton fans walking past Great homer street market. Also one of the first times on the telly look north I think and they had a report on the trouble. My first aways were Burnley and villa. Not much trouble. Then Leeds away first game I think 73 was an eye opener. Think we took about 4 or 5 specials. Out the station into an escort with about 200 Leeds in front of us. Every now and then a charge and they legged it. After the game a huge mob of Everton and every now and then running back to the station although I never saw any Leeds fans. Loads of kids getting whacked by the police. After that violence was regular at home and away games.
 
I remember a game at Goodison against United in the early/mid eighties when it was literally kicking off all round the ground, apart from the Gwladys St!
We were sat in the Main Stand and watched as a whole load of them in the Upper Bullens left their seats and suddenly reappeared in the Upper Bullens down towards the St End. They were in the Park End, and in the paddock below the Main Stand from the paddock they were trying to climb up into the Main Stand! It was going off all round Goodison in about four or five places at once!
Have quite a vivid picture in my mind of the Police in the Main Stand standing there literally give them a wallop or a “friendly” prod as their heads appeared over the top of the wall and knocking them back into the paddock. If they didn’t get knocked back they got dragged over the top and hauled off!
Their is a famous picture of a United gang walking around goodison very early think.it is up by city road. Not an Everton fan in sight so must have been very early. It's all there top lad but quite a few looking back nervously. They comment that they went in the main stand with tickets then when n the match was on they stood up singing United and had a go at some blues. The main stand though ha. Saw United take some bad beatings at goodison 70s and 80s they even feared it themselves. United was a scarry place in the 70s. Better in the 80s for us. 13000 in the FA cup wad amazing. Walking all the way to Victoria without the police United were invisible
 

Their is a famous picture of a United gang walking around goodison very early think.it is up by city road. Not an Everton fan in sight so must have been very early. It's all there top lad but quite a few looking back nervously. They comment that they went in the main stand with tickets then when n the match was on they stood up singing United and had a go at some blues. The main stand though ha. Saw United take some bad beatings at goodison 70s and 80s they even feared it themselves. United was a scarry place in the 70s. Better in the 80s for us. 13000 in the FA cup wad amazing. Walking all the way to Victoria without the police United were invisible
That pic is of them by Walton village,across the road from the taxi club,it was taken around 3.20,a few went in the main stand and there were a few scuffles
 
That pic is of them by Walton village,across the road from the taxi club,it was taken around 3.20,a few went in the main stand and there were a few scuffles
They do look.a bit nervous ha
 

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That pic is of them by Walton village,across the road from the taxi club,it was taken around 3.20,a few went in the main stand and there were a few scuffles
So is this after the game had started. Always thought it must have been early doors as no fans around
 

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