Current Affairs George Floyd and Minneapolis Unrest

[DanEFC92]

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Dont know and dont care...totally irrelevant to the point i was disproving.

I dont have any set political views, i dont even vote.

Never watched that tv station before

I do now and again (over the internet), the art of war, no your enemy better than they know themselves..

 

[trueblue84]

Craig David pretty much said it ruined his career and it's one of the reasons he moved to the US.

Yeah, THAT'S why his career fizzled out.

Didn't he appear in some episodes of bo selecta as Craig Davis?

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

I dont have any set political views, i dont even vote.

Where's that eye roll emoji?

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Craig David pretty much said it ruined his career and it's one of the reasons he moved to the US.

I think him being talentless had a lot more to do with it.

 

[davek]

So is this over now?

I have every sympathy with the cause, but it must have pushed up the R-number in the US by a about half a % point.

Deal with the existential threat to everyone, then deal with the threat to communities where fascist policing kills.

 

[coollino]

Yeah, THAT'S why his career fizzled out.

Didn't he appear in some episodes of bo selecta as Craig Davis?

No idea, just remember reading it a few years ago.

 

[Zatara]

1: Do you think context is important when it comes to racism? By context I mean things like historical context.

2: Whist racism may exist on some level In every country, do you think that the scale of the problem may be different for different countries?

3: Re 3, in the countries where there are significant levels of protest at the moment relating to racism (let’s just say the US and UK), do you think people of colour are subjected to racism on a much larger scale than white people?

4:In terms of your last point re ‘legally’. Could you give me some examples? I would like to understand what you deem to be appropriate forms of protest.

1: Racism whether historically connected or not is still racism. I doubt people are thinking back 100s of years at the meanings of racist words across the world and researching their meanings...alot of people will simply know them and use them to trigger people or to express their racist viewpoints.


2: Thats a loaded question. It really depends on how to measure personal perception, cause/effect by those suffering on a country to country basis. Theres no data to show this.

3: In the majority of the country certainly yes. However, that may well be because white is the majority race of the population. When you delve into the life of a white person living within a non-white community the numbers may be different.

@Zatara buddy would u have any views on this??

I see, said the blind man to his deaf wife...

 

[Zatara]

@mill acceptable forms of protest should be looked at;

Legally -- is there a case which needs to be answered which can be taken to the legal bodies in said country. Something similar to Gina Miller with Brexit.

Apply to be granted the right to hold a demonstration / protest.

Depending on the situation with those two items then we can explore other ways to protest.

 

[Zatara]

I do now and again (over the internet), the art of war, no your enemy better than they know themselves..

Would you say some of the people on fox news would like the military involved?

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Would you say some of the people on fox news would like the military involved?

Not viewed since George Floyd murder, however, the viewership tends to be of retired persons and who vote republican, so like here in the UK, armchair generals will be gagging for it.

 

[mill]

1: Racism whether historically connected or not is still racism. I doubt people are thinking back 100s of years at the meanings of racist words across the world and researching their meanings...alot of people will simply know them and use them to trigger people or to express their racist viewpoints.


2: Thats a loaded question. It really depends on how to measure personal perception, cause/effect by those suffering on a country to country basis. Theres no data to show this.

3: In the majority of the country certainly yes. However, that may well be because white is the majority race of the population. When you delve into the life of a white person living within a non-white community the numbers may be different.



I see, said the blind man to his deaf wife...

Just to clarify your point in 1 as I wasn’t really referring to historical context from an etymological perspective. You seem to be referring to racism being at an ‘individual’ (ie name calling, direct abuse etc) rather than a systemic/institutional level, do you think institutional racism exists? What’s your definition of institutional racism?

Again your second point seems to be referring to explicit, ‘individual’ racism rather than at a systemic level. There are plenty of stats to point to racism. It’s not subjective. Objectively you can see that inequality exists as a result of race.

Again, your 3rd point seems to refer to racism at an individual level.

So I’ll come back to institutional racism and whether you think it exists and what your definition of it is?

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

@mill acceptable forms of protest should be looked at;

Legally -- is there a case which needs to be answered which can be taken to the legal bodies in said country. Something similar to Gina Miller with Brexit.

Apply to be granted the right to hold a demonstration / protest.

Depending on the situation with those two items then we can explore other ways to protest.

This right is guaranteed in the 1st amendment of the constitution. The right to freedom of association and the right of the citizenry to petition the government for redress.

You should never have to apply to the state for the right to hold it to account. Because you will never be given that right by those in power. It belongs to you already.

 

[Blue 1]

It only takes 16 weeks training to become a cop in the US and when they get fired they can just go to the next county and be re-employed in an awful lot of cases.

Is it any wonder most of them have about the same competence and approach to policing as Eric Cartman?

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

It only takes 16 weeks training to become a cop in the US and when they get fired they can just go to the next county and be re-employed in an awful lot of cases.

Is it any wonder most of them have about the same competence and approach to policing as Eric Cartman?

That guy in N. Carolina who pushed a kneeling protester with her hands behind her back down onto her face has 79 investigations for use of force in 3 and a half years on the job. Baffling.