Game Of Thrones: Season 8

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Absolutely. Her struggles in Meereen were the first time her challenges to rule was solved by brute force. Since then she's been portrayed more like a paragon or hero coming to save the living from the dead. Losing 2 dragons should have made her mad but the show hasn't really demonstrated that effect.

And yeah, mad Amelia looks more like cute and pouty than a dragon-riding warlord.

I think there has been a massive retcon by people trying to justify the path her narrative and character have taken these last few episodes. Has she burned people? Yes. In the context of the shows medieval setting and the rules that’s have been set up in the shows universe everything she’s done up to the latest episode has pretty much been entirely justified. Even when she burned Sam’s brother and father she gave them fair opportunity to bend the knee. Cersei literally blew up a huge part of the city, killing many people and then essentially elected herself as the new queen/tyrant. With no challenge from anyone. We didn’t even see the people in kings landing questioning this. But Dany is the mad one whom nobody likes...

People are trying to claim that we have seen Dany act violently and OTT over the entire show and that the latest episode is a perfectly acceptable culmination of her narrative. That is not how her actions have been depicted or how they should be viewed. When she didn’t flinch when her brother was given a golden crown by Khal Drogo it was because he’d promised to let thousands of men rape her so he could be king. When she set the unsullied on the masters she was setting them free from the men who had literally kept them as slaves and CASTRATED them. When her dragons destroyed the slavers ships and when Drogon obliterated the Lannister forces, these were presented as heroic moments. The historical revisionism that people are doing to justify this two episode descent into madness is laughable. This is badly written trash.

The other issue is the way they’ve gone about it is so predictable. Everyone she loves has died and the people don’t love her. Oh and she’s lost her claim to the throne because of who Jon actually is. It’s just total misery, and it’s no surprise she’s snapped. And it’s boring. Imagine now if Jorah and Barristan where still alive trying to counsel her- and she still went mad. But as it stands right now she is entirely justified in going mad- why wouldn’t she? Her advisers who have been totally awful in her service are plotting against her. The good advisors she had were killed- in totally avoidable and stupid circumstances. She lost half her forces and one dragon in the battle against the white walkers. The Starks, including the useless Sansa, still talk trash about her for what reason exactly? Do we know?

A lot of this clearly comes down to the shortened season. Everything is happening far too quickly and it’s just not working. If “Mad Dany” is George RR Martin’s end game as well then I’m sure that it will actually work over a longer period of time. I would have loved to have seen Dany dealing with Jon’s heritage and her slow descent into madness over a full season, or even two seasons. Imagine Jorah, who devoted years of his life to her believing she would be a perfect ruler watching as she burnt down a city. There is the potential for a great story there but it’s been butchered. Just like the white walkers, just like Jaime, just like Tyrion, Jon and so on and so on.

Never thought I’d ever say this... but Anakin Skywalker’s turn to the dark side was better written than what we’re witnessing with Dany.
 
Bar the obvious plot holes left over from previous episodes, I actually thought that was the tightest episode.

At least the stuff made sense, generally, and we saw just how evil and twisted Dani has become with power (which is the whole point of the show and always has been, though the WW threat was meant to be the thing that ultimately proved all that pointless).

But yeh, enjoyed it. Maybe because I was so let down last week, but at least this made sense.
 
I think there has been a massive retcon by people trying to justify the path her narrative and character have taken these last few episodes. Has she burned people? Yes. In the context of the shows medieval setting and the rules that’s have been set up in the shows universe everything she’s done up to the latest episode has pretty much been entirely justified. Even when she burned Sam’s brother and father she gave them fair opportunity to bend the knee. Cersei literally blew up a huge part of the city, killing many people and then essentially elected herself as the new queen/tyrant. With no challenge from anyone. We didn’t even see the people in kings landing questioning this. But Dany is the mad one whom nobody likes...

People are trying to claim that we have seen Dany act violently and OTT over the entire show and that the latest episode is a perfectly acceptable culmination of her narrative. That is not how her actions have been depicted or how they should be viewed. When she didn’t flinch when her brother was given a golden crown by Khal Drogo it was because he’d promised to let thousands of men rape her so he could be king. When she set the unsullied on the masters she was setting them free from the men who had literally kept them as slaves and CASTRATED them. When her dragons destroyed the slavers ships and when Drogon obliterated the Lannister forces, these were presented as heroic moments. The historical revisionism that people are doing to justify this two episode descent into madness is laughable. This is badly written trash.

The other issue is the way they’ve gone about it is so predictable. Everyone she loves has died and the people don’t love her. Oh and she’s lost her claim to the throne because of who Jon actually is. It’s just total misery, and it’s no surprise she’s snapped. And it’s boring. Imagine now if Jorah and Barristan where still alive trying to counsel her- and she still went mad. But as it stands right now she is entirely justified in going mad- why wouldn’t she? Her advisers who have been totally awful in her service are plotting against her. The good advisors she had were killed- in totally avoidable and stupid circumstances. She lost half her forces and one dragon in the battle against the white walkers. The Starks, including the useless Sansa, still talk trash about her for what reason exactly? Do we know?

A lot of this clearly comes down to the shortened season. Everything is happening far too quickly and it’s just not working. If “Mad Dany” is George RR Martin’s end game as well then I’m sure that it will actually work over a longer period of time. I would have loved to have seen Dany dealing with Jon’s heritage and her slow descent into madness over a full season, or even two seasons. Imagine Jorah, who devoted years of his life to her believing she would be a perfect ruler watching as she burnt down a city. There is the potential for a great story there but it’s been butchered. Just like the white walkers, just like Jaime, just like Tyrion, Jon and so on and so on.

Never thought I’d ever say this... but Anakin Skywalker’s turn to the dark side was better written than what we’re witnessing with Dany.

Yeh, absolutely no need for the short season. But I've accepted it for what it is.

Just angers me at the amount of time that was wasted in season 6 and even season 7.
 
But yeh, overall its proper run away with itself and the writers haven't got a clue what they're doing.

But, I enjoyed the ep. Shame it's ending up like this.

I have no idea what was the point in killing the dragon last week. They literally had no requirement to do it. Other than to plant the seed that Dany would go mad (even though they'd actually planted that seed long before).

Like I said, this episode suffered from the plot holes previously there. As an episode it was pretty (for this season at least) tight, and the scenes of utter devastation and also the realisation from Jon that he messed it all up were good. Arya served a good purpose as well.

But overall the season has been shocking in terms of quality and unfortunately these writers have messed up pretty much a whole show now.
 
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