Furious!

[davek]

Let my self settle over the past 24 hours and ignored all forums since the trasfer window shut. But it hasnt helped i am absolutley furious that the transfer window has come and passed and we havnt even got anything.

My opinions on Everton on and of the feild are pretty well known and i like to think their objective, reasoned based on analysed facts. I have to say and it should be said as LOUD as possible what happened in the transfer window is WRONG.

At the end of December was i the only one feeling we were crawling toward January, to address the glaring oversight that we we're spanking teams but not scoring goals, thankfully i thought the transfer window came, we would be much stronger by the end of the month. What happens, we actually let two strikers leave, not for big wonga but on loan, an absolutely scandalous decison whoever made it, be it the manager or the board. So i reasoned ok - we're clearing the decks to get in new blood - we obviously have one or two in the bag. Bang, Pienaar goes for a fee 3 mill, - so i think ok we now have wages and a bit of money to invest, we must have a few lined up if hes prepared to let all these heads go.

Tick tock, tick tock, 11pm on 31/1/11 nothing happens. Im not even talking about signings, just a measely loan signing at least, after releaseing 3 senior players (not to metion Yobo in the summer) and sytematicly weakening an already struggleing squad.

Frankly its not good enough and i dont care if it was the managers decion, boards, finance or whatever - what we systematicly did was weaken a struggling squad of quality and depth for absolutley nothing - especially upfront where we have liped along patheicly all season and couldnt afford to loose options what poor options we already had, its an absolute scandel.


Im not one to have a rant, but like i say im furious and what has happened is so systematicly wrong.

Idoicey doesnt even begin to cover how i feel about the decions made in the window.

Like i say its WRONG and needs calling as such. We've been done and done badly.

Welcome home Brother Neiler.

You and a lot of other people have put down the Kool Aid just in time.

 

[Neiler]

Welcome home Brother Neiler.

You and a lot of other people have put down the Kool Aid just in time.

Personaly i think this is the straw that has broken the backs of many reasonable and paitent Evertonians, ive always beleived that any money cleared has gone straght back into the club, we are prob working with a shortfall in terms of profit or loss, but the decison to weaken the squad significantly, matched with the fact that we couldnt even support the team or the manager with a meagre loan signing, is beyond lunacey, we are massively vulnerable on and of the pitch and tyhe transfer window has doen nothing but make far vulnerable.

The level or risk to the club on and of the pitch has increased by signifcantly for me, poor poor management whoever it was, it really is beggers beleif what has actually happened.

 

[davek]

Personaly i think this is the straw that has broken the backs of many reasonable and paitent Evertonians, ive always beleived that any money cleared has gone straght back into the club, we are prob working with a shortfall in terms of profit or loss, but the decison to weaken the squad significantly, matched with the fact that we couldnt even support the team or the manager with a meagre loan signing, is beyond lunacey, we are massively vulnerable on and of the pitch and tyhe transfer window has doen nothing but make far vulnerable.

The level or risk to the club on and of the pitch has increased by signifcantly for me, poor poor management whoever it was, it really is beggers beleif what has actually happened.

For me, this is the end product of a policy of selling off assets left, right and centre. Securitization of the season ticket money, land sales, outsourcing merchandising...that'll get you in the end eventually. It's been masked by borrowing tv money in advance and the judicious use of player sales. Now the cupboard is bare, we're struggling desperately in the transfer windows and it really comes down to one thing: are the owners willing to invest or dilute their shareholdings to boost the squad (that's if they dont wish to sell - which seems likely despite their protestations).

To borrow chico's phrase - the levee has well and truly broken.

Rumours knocking about that Bill is in the US looking for investment. We shall see.

 

[thebluefox]

10 years the man has had to look for investment,when r people going to see kenwright doesnt want huge investment,he looks on everton as his little toy.theres only one way to force him out ,and that is moyes to come out and say so .2.900 at arsenal midweek ,tell me how many teams could do that .the fans are N,S.N.O.the board r most def not

 

[NickEFC]

I'm in total agreement with all this.

In my opinion, Bill is not "clearing the decks", he is not actively looking for investment and his actions are those of a man who wants to cling on a little bit longer.
There is no one interested because of his behaviour and he will cling on until it is too late.

I see no light, just a long, dark tunnel.

 

[Sheedy's Third]

Always darkest before the dawn.Cheer up.

It´s the not knowing that drives everyone mad and leads to rumour,gossip and speculation. and with results not going our way on the pitch people are understanably frustrated. We don´t ask for much just to be told whats occuring . When the club keeps stum everyone thinks they have something to hide. Speak up EVERTON then at least we´d know were we stand and what we´re in for.as a team,as supporters . I agree we deserve better in this respect.

 

[Neiler]

For me, this is the end product of a policy of selling off assets left, right and centre. Securitization of the season ticket money, land sales, outsourcing merchandising...that'll get you in the end eventually. It's been masked by borrowing tv money in advance and the judicious use of player sales. Now the cupboard is bare, we're struggling desperately in the transfer windows and it really comes down to one thing: are the owners willing to invest or dilute their shareholdings to boost the squad (that's if they dont wish to sell - which seems likely despite their protestations).

To borrow chico's phrase - the levee has well and truly broken.

Rumours knocking about that Bill is in the US looking for investment. We shall see.

To be honest, it all points to me of a gamble that went when and trually wrong, the budget has well and trually been messed up. Taking on the additional expenditure of the new contracts last summer - we really pushed the boat putting all our eggs in the one basket in the hope that and lets be honest - we all thought the same - the quality in the squad by keeping existing players would be enough to see us at least in the Europa League. meaning basicly we decided to blow our load on increaseing the wage bill instead of invinvesting in new talent. The decison has horribly backfired and lets be honest - we all thought the squad would do signifcantly better then it has. So what we have is a hugely well paid squad - yet one that cant manage to to win games. Its a decison i think given the choice (and i admit its not an apeealling one) probably all evertonians would have made if they were being honest, keeping our best players rather then getting new ones. Its proved to be wrong but we all colluded with it in terms of expectation.

I do take issue with this transfer window though, massively infact, the attendance at Goodison is dwindeling at a massive rate, based on the apathey of supporters of what we are seeing and the inactivity, alarming our average this seaon i think is somewhere in the 30.000, the number of empty seats at Goodison on Saturday was awfull, given the opposition and players on show and our chances. All pointing to the fact that fans are bewildered and apathetic in realtion to what has happened to us this season and devoid of hope or expectation that this will be improved upon on or of the piitch -i dont blame them. The transfer window has proven reinforced this.

Its not just on the pitch where my concern lies, in real terms what we are seeing form weakening our squad and not doing anything in the window, is falling attendences, growing apathey and basicly admitting whatever slim hope we had of europe is basicly torpedoed, we also have an annual budget which plans for 10th every season, that is looking like a stretch or possibly best outcome for us at the moment. So in essence the inactivity in the window has meant we could potentialy loose millions in terms of finishing placement money, confirming the closeing of any (slim as it may have been) chance of getting a revenue stream for Europe. If that is the case, our increased cost base of contracts and lower revenuee and worringly downward spiral of revenue, will mean any oppurtunity to progress is 0, in fact we may have to offload cargo.

Alot of this was avaoidable by being active in the market and the fact we werent and actually weakened squad, really is the worst decison i have seen since the days of Johnson on and of the pitch, we are now massively vulnerable and for me what looks like a downward trajectory, barring a miracle. i think there is a huge magnitude incvolved in every aspect of the club on and of the pitch in what happened in the Jaunary window.

 

[Matt Damon]

To be honest, it all points to me of a gamble that went when and trually wrong, the budget has well and trually been messed up. Taking on the additional expenditure of the new contracts last summer - we really pushed the boat putting all our eggs in the one basket in the hope that and lets be honest - we all thought the same - the quality in the squad by keeping existing players would be enough to see us at least in the Europa League. meaning basicly we decided to blow our load on increaseing the wage bill instead of invinvesting in new talent. The decison has horribly backfired and lets be honest - we all thought the squad would do signifcantly better then it has. So what we have is a hugely well paid squad - yet one that cant manage to to win games. Its a decison i think given the choice (and i admit its not an apeealling one) probably all evertonians would have made if they were being honest, keeping our best players rather then getting new ones. Its proved to be wrong but we all colluded with it in terms of expectation.

I do take issue with this transfer window though, massively infact, the attendance at Goodison is dwindeling at a massive rate, based on the apathey of supporters of what we are seeing and the inactivity, alarming our average this seaon i think is somewhere in the 30.000, the number of empty seats at Goodison on Saturday was awfull, given the opposition and players on show and our chances. All pointing to the fact that fans are bewildered and apathetic in realtion to what has happened to us this season and devoid of hope or expectation that this will be improved upon on or of the piitch -i dont blame them. The transfer window has proven reinforced this.

Its not just on the pitch where my concern lies, in real terms what we are seeing form weakening our squad and not doing anything in the window, is falling attendences, growing apathey and basicly admitting whatever slim hope we had of europe is basicly torpedoed, we also have an annual budget which plans for 10th every season, that is looking like a stretch or possibly best outcome for us at the moment. So in essence the inactivity in the window has meant we could potentialy loose millions in terms of finishing placement money, confirming the closeing of any (slim as it may have been) chance of getting a revenue stream for Europe. If that is the case, our increased cost base of contracts and lower revenuee and worringly downward spiral of revenue, will mean any oppurtunity to progress is 0, in fact we may have to offload cargo.

Alot of this was avaoidable by being active in the market and the fact we werent and actually weakened squad, really is the worst decison i have seen since the days of Johnson on and of the pitch, we are now massively vulnerable and for me what looks like a downward trajectory, barring a miracle. i think there is a huge magnitude incvolved in every aspect of the club on and of the pitch in what happened in the Jaunary window.

It was a televised FA Cup game.

The week before for West Ham, it was a full house (in terms of Everton's ticket sales) - and that was against bottom opposition.

 

[micknick]

The tide is turning- I know it is with me.

How we can let Vaughan and Yakubu go on loan when we have struggled to score goals is suicidal- we are either THAT skint that we cannot afford wages or there has been big fall outs.

Something big needs to change- I still believe we have a very talented squad up there with the best of my lifetime but there is something missing- the spirit seems lacking, finances are definitely lacking and fans are showing they are lacking belief by not turning up.

I think it is time Bill moved on- thank him for what he has done and lets move on- otherwise the fire sale could continue in the summer and our faithful leader could well move on.

Its time for a change.

 

[Robert Jarvis]

For me, this is the end product of a policy of selling off assets left, right and centre. Securitization of the season ticket money, land sales, outsourcing merchandising...that'll get you in the end eventually. It's been masked by borrowing tv money in advance and the judicious use of player sales. Now the cupboard is bare, we're struggling desperately in the transfer windows and it really comes down to one thing: are the owners willing to invest or dilute their shareholdings to boost the squad (that's if they dont wish to sell - which seems likely despite their protestations).

To borrow chico's phrase - the levee has well and truly broken.

Rumours knocking about that Bill is in the US looking for investment. We shall see.

Well said Dave, totally agree. What a way to run a business.

IT IS INVESTMENT WE NEED!

WE NEED BK & CO OUT.

 

[Matt Damon]

For me, this is the end product of a policy of selling off assets left, right and centre. Securitization of the season ticket money, land sales, outsourcing merchandising...that'll get you in the end eventually. It's been masked by borrowing tv money in advance and the judicious use of player sales. Now the cupboard is bare, we're struggling desperately in the transfer windows and it really comes down to one thing: are the owners willing to invest or dilute their shareholdings to boost the squad (that's if they dont wish to sell - which seems likely despite their protestations).

To borrow chico's phrase - the levee has well and truly broken.

Rumours knocking about that Bill is in the US looking for investment. We shall see.

Kenwright may indeed be doing so.

Infact you know - I believe he'll be gone by the summer.


However I must also add this has ZERO affect on the possibility of EFC going into administration this season or next.

Just to clarify anyone making statements that the club are in financial trouble are making disingenuous and completely wrong statements.

Bill Kenwrights and EFC's finances are not one and the same.

However it is true - that Kenwright can no longer afford EFC.

 

[davek]

Kenwright may indeed be doing so.

Infact you know - I believe he'll be gone by the summer.


However I must also add this has ZERO affect on the possibility of EFC going into administration this season or next.

Just to clarify anyone making statements that the club are in financial trouble are making disingenuous and completely wrong statements.

Bill Kenwrights and EFC's finances are not one and the same.

However it is true - that Kenwright can no longer afford EFC.

Radio Merseyside phone in last night - the reporter holding court said that the station had enquired to the club about the rumours of administration and they replied that 'it was unfair' to be asked this question....not that it was completely untrue or a categorical 'get out of here' rebuttal...just that it was 'unfair' to be asked the question.

Make of that what you will. Personally I think we have way too many assets in blue jerseys to go into administration (unless there's even more debts hidden away that we dont know about, or all existing creditors come at once for their money). But I also think we'll see a continuance with this policy of selling players in the windows to keep creditors at bay.

 

[Robert Jarvis]

True Dave we could sell 3/4 players to clear some if not all our debts but then we would still have no money to brinmg in new players to replace those we sold. Recipe for CL football IMO

 

[davek]

True Dave we could sell 3/4 players to clear some if not all our debts but then we would still have no money to brinmg in new players to replace those we sold. Recipe for CL football IMO

Something has to give. Either new investment from somewhere so we can operate in the manner of ordinary clubs around us, or the club slowly unravels. At this point it looks like the latter strategy has been adopted. IMO, a rabbit from a hat will be pulled at some stage soon. It has to be. But the longer this goes on without releasing a statement the greater is the tendency for the vacuum of info to be filled by rumour - and poor PR on the back of that.

It's about the most amateurish way you could run a club. I dont think any of us can really believe how this situation has been allowed to go on without it being explained. I was astounded when I heard that reporter on Radio Merseyside last night say that the club - when asked by them about administration - simply left the question hanging in the air instead of belting it unequivocally out the park. "It's unfair" to ask the question...and "we dont think there's any basis to it" was the only response!!! I mean, if that's from Ian Ross or the club secretary (which you'd expect a radio station to get a quote off rather than Fred the Doorman), then that's frightening.

 

[Matt Damon]

Radio Merseyside phone in last night - the reporter holding court said that the station had enquired to the club about the rumours of administration and they replied that 'it was unfair' to be asked this question....not that it was completely untrue or a categorical 'get out of here' rebuttal...just that it was 'unfair' to be asked the question.

Make of that what you will. Personally I think we have way too many assets in blue jerseys to go into administration (unless there's even more debts hidden away that we dont know about, or all existing creditors come at once for their money). But I also think we'll see a continuance with this policy of selling players in the windows to keep creditors at bay.

Are Radio Merseyside asking all clubs are they going into administration? It would be unfair if they weren't. Unfair on the club and our fans singling out one club of 10 that didn't spend in the window.

Unfair on the timing of the question too. Could be viewed as stirring with an angry fanbase currently.

Poor choice of words from the spokesmen... but then again its again just speculation again.


Oh and if we were in trouble I'd say. But we aren't.

Its Kenwright who cannot afford EFC anymore , which is what he probably views as unfair.