Current Affairs Free Speech

Status
Not open for further replies.
We actually view it pretty much identically. It's just while you see it as meaningless and irrelevant, I see it as dangerous. I wish it had zero impact on anything outside of the Oxford common room - but the fact we and thousands of others are discussing it and news media are running articles on it, it clearly has an impact.

As said, death by a thousand stupid cuts, each one as stupid and pointless as the last, but a cut nevertheless.

It should be utterly irrelevant; in a normal world it'd be some nutcases doing stupid stuff and other nutcases reacting to it. But the problem is the lunatics are threatening to run the whole asylum.

Do you genuinely think it's 'nutcases' who have decided to take down a picture of a Queen? And you genuinely view them as extremists?
 
Oh well that's fine then. Whatever the footballers decide is law, the 'morons in the crowd' have been told what it means now, shut your traps and accept your place, the 'morons in the crowd' don't get to have a view.



They get to have a view, but they equally get to be told what morons they are being. It's just a 'kin knee ffs, they're the ones making the big deal of it.
 
Do you genuinely think it's 'nutcases' who have decided to take down a picture of a Queen? And you genuinely view them as extremists?

Yes, I think the reasoning behind it - remove a picture of the Queen to create a 'safe space', like a picture of her is so oppressive that she's akin to a picture of a KKK Grand Wizard - is actually insane and done for very obvious extreme political reasons.

If they'd have just said "you know what, should we freshen up the place and put a new picture up", like any sane person would, nobody would care. It's not the act of taking the picture down that is the issue, it's the reasoning behind it.

They get to have a view, but they equally get to be told what morons they are being. It's just a 'kin knee ffs, they're the ones making the big deal of it.

Great, and they in turn get to call the footballers morons for doing it too.
 
Yes, I think the reasoning behind it - remove a picture of the Queen to create a 'safe space', like a picture of her is so oppressive that she's akin to a picture of a KKK Grand Wizard - is actually insane and done for very obvious extreme political reasons.

If they'd have just said "you know what, should we freshen up the place and put a new picture up", like any sane person would, nobody would care. It's not the act of taking the picture down that is the issue, it's the reasoning behind it.



Great, and they in turn get to call the footballers morons for doing it too.

That's not what happened though, they just said it made it more welcoming. More akin to me asking my workplace to take down a picture of John Aldridge as I think he's a bell that represents things I don't like.

And, I'm fairly sure you would still care, you're exactly the person they whip up this sort of controversy to try and bait, and it clearly works. Imagine thinking a student is an extremist for acknowledging the monarchy has a colonialist past. Absolutely crackers.
 
That's not what happened though, they just said it made it more welcoming. More akin to me asking my workplace to take down a picture of John Aldridge as I think he's a bell that represents things I don't like.

And, I'm fairly sure you would still care, you're exactly the person they whip up this sort of controversy to try and bait, and it clearly works. Imagine thinking a student is an extremist for acknowledging the monarchy has a colonialist past. Absolutely crackers.

Which would be insane, and I'd sincerely hope your boss would tell you to do one if you did.
 
Ha ha, what? Even if everyone in the workplace didn't want it we've got to stick with it?

Yes? Given it's John Aldridge, not Adolf bloody Hitler. Good luck at your employment tribunal on that one!

I can't believe you've just seriously gave that example, like it's obviously completely reasonable!

Unbelievable...
 
Yes? Given it's John Aldridge, not Adolf bloody Hitler. Good luck at your employment tribunal on that one!

I can't believe you've just seriously gave that example, like it's obviously completely reasonable!

Unbelievable...

You're saying that if everyone in a workplace wants a picture of John Aldridge taken down because we're Everton fans, and we all agree, we've got to keep it up because it was already there from before? Or we're being insane?
 
You're saying that if everyone in a workplace wants a picture of John Aldridge taken down because we're Everton fans, and we all agree, we've got to keep it up because it was already there from before? Or we're being insane?

Insane. Absolutely. If the boss wants it in his/her building that he/she owns, that's their call. It'd be like moaning about the colour of the wallpaper. You can express an opinion, but if they want to keep, they keep.

It's John Aldridge. A footballer. John Aldridge. A picture of him in a building isn't infringing on your human rights ffs
 
Insane. Absolutely. If the boss wants it in his/her building that he/she owns, that's their call. It'd be like moaning about the colour of the wallpaper. You can express an opinion, but if they want to keep, they keep.

It's John Aldridge. A footballer. John Aldridge. A picture of him in a building isn't infringing on your human rights ffs

Who ever said anything about infringing human rights? Why are you taking it to such extremes? No one else has.
Whoever said the boss was wanting to keep it? There wasn't a boss who wanted to keep the picture of the Queen up in the common room was there? Just those of us in the office decided we didn't want a picture of John Aldridge up because we were Everton fans so we all agreed it should come down.
 
Who ever said anything about infringing human rights? Why are you taking it to such extremes? No one else has.
Whoever said the boss was wanting to keep it? There wasn't a boss who wanted to keep the picture of the Queen up in the common room was there? Just those of us in the office decided we didn't want a picture of John Aldridge up because we were Everton fans so we all agreed it should come down.

Your workplace has no hierarchy then?

If not, fine. If someone is ultimately responsible and they wanted to keep it, no, you're insane to think it "should" come down.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Welcome

Join the Everton conversation today.
Fewer ads, full access, completely free.

🛒 Visit Shop

Support Grand Old Team by checking out our latest Everton gear!
Back
Top