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kenada_blue said:
Stanford University Science and Genetics - "When the SRY gene isn't working, the resulting condition is called Swyer syndrome, or XY gonadal dysgenesis. Individuals with this condition are genetically male (XY), but look female."

Like you say, these are extremely rare cases enough to even baffle genetic scientists how people with different genetic makeup can develop.
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There will be developmental disorders waiting to happen that mankind has never seen before. There's billions of potential variations. Most will have no 'symptoms' so are completely missed.

For example, one I was reading up on last year called Kleefstra Syndrome, caused by the disabling of a gene just like SRY/XY one during development. Super rare, but happens.

I'm sure there will be many more developmental sexual disorders found. But their existence isn't evidence of a sexual spectrum. They are an anomaly of the status quo. What happens when things go wrong.
 
verreauxi said:
So this individual will develop ovaries, fallopian tubes, a uterus, a vaginal canal and external vulva, and have high levels of circulating estrogen and will menstruate, but you'll call them "male." At least kenda_blue was correct, it is apparently now about opinions, since your opinion on this matter would run against all biological expert views, since most people would classify this individual as female.

[edit, and I should add, importantly, this individual would likely view themselves as female]
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You're describing a female not someone without the SRY gene. Without the SRY gene they're scientifically deemed male even if they have female characteristics externally

XY Females predominantly have underdeveloped testies that need to be removed due to cancerous development. They have a fully developed female reproductive system as you've mentioned.
 
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Tubey said:
There will be developmental disorders waiting to happen that mankind has never seen before. There's billions of potential variations. Most will have no 'symptoms' so are completely missed.

For example, one I was reading up on last year called Kleefstra Syndrome, caused by the disabling of a gene just like SRY/XY one during development. Super rare, but happens.

I'm sure there will be many more developmental sexual disorders found. But their existence isn't evidence of a sexual spectrum. They are an anomaly of the status quo. What happens when things go wrong.
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Exactly.

The cases are even described as defects or anomalies scientifically.

I can see why that can come across as inhumane...but that's how it's categorised.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
Just give me one example then.

I'm not trying to trick you up. I know we disagree on most things political but I honestly believe our right to have a say and to fight (not figuratively) for what we believe in is one of the things I most like about this country. In fact I think sometimes we take it for granted.

I'm just interested to find out why you disagree with that.
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Just about hitting the news cycle "right to peaceful existence" because of a weekend of restraining women. Under the guise of Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill... Look forward to your regurgitation of right populist media views on "free speech".
 
NilSatisOptimum said:
Just about hitting the news cycle "right to peaceful existence" because of a weekend of restraining women. Under the guise of Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill... Look forward to your regurgitation of right populist media views on "free speech".
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I haven't got a clue what you're on about there so I won't be regurgitating anything to you. lol
 
Free Speech is an American concept enshrined in their constitution and it has limits.

You've got international Tories constantly going on about their Right to Free Speech with no understanding of what that right even entails and the fact that most countries do not have the same protections America does.

Canadians here have started gobbing off about Free Speech when they're getting called out for their hate speech which is not protected here in Canada. Nor is it in the US.

Free Speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. There are limits in Canada regarding hate speech and obscenity.

People want to throw it around as if it gives them Carte Blanche to say whatever they want. I don't think any country has given people that right.
 
Amw79 said:
I always wonder with people who shout about free speech - what exactly is it you want to say, that you think you’re not allowed to?

I think a large percentage of it would be people who just want to be able to publicly slander, abuse and discriminate without any repercussions.
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I was not defending Julie Bichill calling Muhammad a paedophile. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
 
Amw79 said:
Oh no, I get that. A general comment over what I see with the regular claims that free spech is under attack.
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I feel they are so paranoid that they are being held back that they just blurt out the most offensive thing they can and then moan they can't say it, even though they did.

At the same time, these days, there is a decent amount of money to be made from being like this. There is probably a fine line between people who fully believe in it and people who just get swept up in the wave.

She will probably do an article in the Spectator and recoup the damages anyway.
 
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