Current Affairs Fox hunting

[WycombeToffee]

How will they though? They haven't even fully released the figures yet, Barry Gardiner has made it very clear that when they do they have been over everything.

I'm not buying anything the Tories say when 30 or so of them can't even declare things correctly.

Hypocrisy yet again. Labour have actually been fined £20,000 over administration errors at the 2015 GE.

 

[Moomin]

I must have been through this about 10 times now. The debt argument is just ridiculous. It isn't even an argument. How can people not understand the difference between debt and deficit? It would have been impossible to reduce the debt straight away. But the deficit is almost cancelled, and we'll soon be in an annual surplus, ensuring the debt can start coming down. If you're so concerned about the debt, why support someone who would hugely increase it (and the deficit)?

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[Sapie88]

Hypocrisy yet again. Labour have actually been fined £20,000 over administration errors at the 2015 GE.

Errors, not shadily covered up bungs.

 

[WycombeToffee]

Are you for real? They have taken away from the most vulnerable in society in the elderly and disabled and given that money as tax breaks to the rich!

We've already been through this too. Lower taxes on businesses has actually led to more tax income. And the top 1% of earners already pay 27% of all income tax. And the recovery from the recession has improved the state of the economy for everyone anway. It is better now than during the devastating financial crisis where unemployment doubled, inflation reached 7%, and public spending declined.

 

[WycombeToffee]

I've just said that the debt has risen, and said why. I said that the deficit is the most important indicator. And in response, you post a graph of the debt. Just showing that you didn't take in anything I've just said about the difference between the two.

 

[ashwuk76]

We've already been through this too. Lower taxes on businesses has actually led to more tax income. And the top 1% of earners already pay 27% of all income tax. And the recovery from the recession has improved the state of the economy for everyone anway. It is better now than during the devastating financial crisis where unemployment doubled, inflation reached 7%, and public spending declined.

That would be all well and good if they then put the increases in tax income due to this increase back where it came from. But oh wait they haven't and they never will.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Obviously it's daft to repeal this. But it's largely irrelevant as it goes on regardless.

 

[Sapie88]

That would be all well and good if they then put the increases in tax income due to this increase back where it came from. But oh wait they haven't and they never will.

Nah mate it's just easier to cut all the things that poor people need.

The most telling thing was the cut to mental health care, which is what I don't get on here, we have an absolutely fantastic thread that helps those in such a situation, blues offering others advice and support yet right smack bang in here there's sneering Tories who are all for these cuts, allying with right wing morons like Piers Morgan who thinks people should just man up.

Staggering.

 

[Moomin]

I've just said that the debt has risen, and said why. I said that the deficit is the most important indicator. And in response, you post a graph of the debt. Just showing that you didn't take in anything I've just said about the difference between the two.

Oh I know, i just posted it.

What i dont agree with on both graphs is why we look at GDP as a barometer.

GDP increasing could be down to a select few individuals, while the rest of us struggle on.

 

[ashwuk76]

Nah mate it's just easier to cut all the things that poor people need.

The most telling thing was the cut to mental health care, which is what I don't get on here, we have an absolutely fantastic thread that helps those in such a situation, blues offering others advice and support yet right smack bang in here there's sneering Tories who are all for these cuts, allying with right wing morons like Piers Morgan who thinks people should just man up.

Staggering.

Yeah mate I know. I have thought maybe we should discuss "them" in a different thread.

As I have said they have no social responsibility and they never will. If it doesn't help out their rich mate they couldn't give a monkey's uncle.

 

[Sapie88]

Yeah mate I know. I have thought maybe we should discuss "them" in a different thread.

As I have said they have no social responsibility and they never will. If it doesn't help out their rich mate they couldn't give a monkey's uncle.

Good point mate, this is about them wanting to gallop around on horses with a pack of dogs so they can catch and tear apart a small animal.

The Conservatives.

 

[ashwuk76]

Good point mate, this is about them wanting to gallop around on horses with a pack of dogs so they can catch and tear apart a small animal.

The Conservatives.

Strong and stable. Tally Ho. There are poor people to exploit and animals to tear apart although Farquah says if they can't find any foxes they will just chase down a poor person instead.

 

[Sapie88]

Strong and stable. Tally Ho. There are poor people to exploit and animals to tear apart although Farquah says if they can't find any foxes they will just chase down a poor person instead.

Honestly wouldn't shock me, in a dystopian world without foxes the conservatives have had to turn to the poor, starting off at foodbanks the brave riders and their blood thirsty dogs attempt to chase down and kill those oiks as they dare to head to the job centre.

 

[ashwuk76]

Honestly wouldn't shock me, in a dystopian world without foxes the conservatives have had to turn to the poor, starting off at foodbanks the brave riders and their blood thirsty dogs attempt to chase down and kill those oiks as they dare to head to the job centre.

It could almost be a plot to a movie if it wasn't so near the truth.

 

[WycombeToffee]

Yeah mate I know. I have thought maybe we should discuss "them" in a different thread.

As I have said they have no social responsibility and they never will. If it doesn't help out their rich mate they couldn't give a monkey's uncle.

We've just said that the personal allowance has increased greatly, income inequality has fallen, the economy has stabilised for everyone, and "the plebs" were allowed a referendum on EU membership (where most voted out). But of course the Tories only care about the rich.