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Everton invested in him, rebuilt his confidence, brought him on as a player. He was transformed in the process, a superfluous loanee to a £100m footballer.
He was boss for West Brom though.

Just compare the player he is now to the player he was when he first arrived. More than any other club, he owes Everton.
He was boss when he arrived though.

And as fans, we did the same. We kept up our end of the bargain.
Dafuq does this mean?

The lad would often get dogs abuse from the stands.

And that was even the case when he didn’t keep up his. Think of the games when he disappeared, think of the times that he ran the club down, think of the occasions that he sulked. We forgave it all.
LOL - sorry but that's bollocks mate.

@Tubey

And then think about what he did on Sunday too. In that crowd were people who had paid his wages, who had sung his name, who had encouraged their children to idolise him (those same children were likely watching at home and could even have been in the stadium too).
That crowd that was calling him for everything?

I thought his reaction was restrained all things considered.

Should the media have really let him off? Surely some exploration of his deliberate crassness was warranted?
No, it does not.

In time, the animosity between Lukaku and Everton will unquestionably dissipate.
I have no animosity toward Lukaku, it would appear to be you with the problem.

That’s how you treat petulant toddlers after all.
if anyone is being a petulant toddler it's you.

Embarrassing article.
 
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The article reflects all I have been thinking about Lukaku since a short time after he joined the club. I have disliked his arrogance and the way he has spoken about our club during all the years he wore a Blue Shirt. He never respected the club, fans or his team-mates. He treated all with equal distain. You only had to see his complete lack of work rate, game after game, to see what he thought of his team-mates. This is the reason the Blues fans gave him grief. I can't remember our fans giving many other ex-Everton players grief. He got what he deserved. But as the writer said, the club gave him a leg up when he was on the way out as a loan player. Not saying he owes a huge debt of gratitude as that would be naïve, but his general attitude towards the Blue shirt, our club, fans and players leaves a lot to be desired. He is no role model. His motto for life is clearly 'It's all about me.' I wish him in life, exactly what any arrogant ignorant pr...k deserves.
He may have run up a respectable goal tally, ( most of which were crafted by other players ) but he holds no place in our hearts, in the same way that our real greats do. Timmy Cahill, Alan Ball, Howard Kendal, Duncan Ferguson. I could name many more, but these players loved us back, took great pride in playing for their Shirt and will always be Goodison Park Greats. One title Lukaku will never win.

He is our greatest ever scorer in the Premier League.
 
I have no problem whatsoever with him acting the way he has. He has a winners single-minded mentality. So be it.

I also have no problem with fans giving him stick for it. Comes with the territory.

To be blunt, there's nothing to write about here. Nobody is wrong in this situation.
 
Wayne wanted to better himself, he went to United, kissed the United badge to the Everton fans when he scored at Goodison. He came back after doing nothing at all for us and, because he wears Everton pyjamas 'Rooneymania' despite the fact it's not an act of love but a way of maintaining £250k a week wages which are beyond his ability.

Lukaku scores a shed load of goals for us, even after saying he wanted to go, like Rooney wants to better himself and win things. We give him dogs abuse and when he gives a little gesture of response after an hour of abuse, we go ape.

Move on.
 

I fail to see what all the fuss is about. Lukaku as an Everton player showed no respect to the club or the fans with his numerous comments instigating a move away from the club. Now as United player why should we honestly be surprised he shows a distinct lack of respect to those same fans, who gave him no grief at matches, even though he publicly turned down a new contract offer and expressed to all 'he knew where he would be playing next season'.
 
Works both ways though doesn't it? If he should show gratitude to us, surely we should to him? After all, he was our top scorer for 4 years straight. We don't though do we? We heckled him all game, and he got shedloads of abuse on social media over the summer (in fact, pretty much since he signed for us actually).

Personally - apart from the social media stuff - I don't see the problem either way. He got a bit of stick off the fans, he told them to pipe down, no big deal. I think its funny when our players goad opposition fans, I can handle it when others do it to us. In hindsight I found Suarez diving in front of Moyes to be hilarious (obviously I wasn't really in a laughing mood after he'd just scored). It's part of the game as far as i'm concerned, and as soon as people start to realise that's the way of the world the better.

This is spot on. He's the one bit of decent business from Fraud. We made a shed load and could maybe have hung on for more the way the summer went. His goals helped us into Europe. His work rate was mostly OK and he was a target man that binded a reasonably well organised side with some young British talent coming through. Now we've replaced him with er, mostly nothing and we're not even playing the same young lads that did great.

I'm not surprised he went; Koeman knew he was gonna go too, we're just bitter cos we wasted the cash!
 

Not bothered either, I could never warm to Lukaku despite his goals and his antics dont surprise nor disappoint.

Players like Cahill and someone even like Landon Donovan who was here only a wet weekend truly got us, and it is guys like that that I remember and still hope they are doing well in life.

Lukaku - nothing.

Great post.It sums up my feelings 100%.I don't buy into this rubbish being spouted from the apologists about Everton fans giving Rom stick and he was just returning the favour.This is a man who talked down and belittled Everton while he was with us.Talking about how this club is not right for him and he is looking at other options etc.He said all this while he was under contract to us on numerous occasions.So no i don't buy the he was provoked argument.He taunted the fans at Old Trafford because he is total and utter asswipe.It's what people like him do.Again i respect Rom as a player but not as a human being.It's that black and white for me really.
 
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He was lauded. He was loved. His name graced our shirts, it was sung by grown men, thousands invested their hopes and dreams in him. He came with his career in the balance. Discarded and unwanted by his former club. Everton invested in him, rebuilt his confidence, brought him on as a player. He was transformed in the process, a superfluous loanee to a £100m footballer.



For him, in football terms, it was a complete success. Just compare the player he is now to the player he was when he first arrived. More than any other club, he owes Everton. He came during a period in his life when time spent with a different club, different managers, different fans could have proven ruinous. There was no guarantee his undoubted talents would have blossomed. There are plenty of young players who fall by the wayside. He has a lot to thank Goodison for.

The side was built around him, no small honour for a young player. The style of play geared to his abilities, enabling him to fine tune his attributes, surrounded by those willing to serve. Players were bought and employed on the pitch with him in mind. He got everything that he wanted and thrived as a result.



The club did everything right. Not a foot put wrong. And as fans, we did the same. We kept up our end of the bargain. And that was even the case when he didn’t keep up his. Think of the games when he disappeared, think of the times that he ran the club down, think of the occasions that he sulked. We forgave it all.

And yet, you would think that all of the above wasn’t the case. You would think that Everton had treated him shabbily, that the supporters had made his life hell, that his time at Goodison was a period of endless misery and frustration. If fact you get the distinct impression that Romelu Lukaku has no affection for Everton or its fans at all.

Perhaps that’s just the nature of modern football. Perhaps we should expect nothing else from the travelling band of mercenaries who occupy the higher reaches of the game. They come for a pay-cheque and personal glory but nothing else. They see football as a business, one in which they sell their labour for the highest price. The fact that their exalted position is built on the hard earned money of those who sit in the stands or watch at home seemingly passes them by. They are economic operators and nothing else, their loyalty paper thin.



They play us though, trade on our memories. Because we remember what players used to be like. We think of the giants of the past. We think of Dean, of Hickson, of Young. Of Royle, Latchford, and Sharp. Of Ferguson, Campbell and Cahill. And we yearn for that feeling again. The lionisation of a terrace great, a player that you loved and who loved you back.

And they know this. They make the right noises, they say the right things, they inhabit the role. And they do it all right up until it’s no longer in their interest. And then you see them for what they really are.

Of course, people will say that Lukaku is a Manchester United player now, and so owes no loyalty to his former employers and their fans. He left for a club that can match his ambitions and if he wants to diminish Everton, if he wants to gloat in front of Blues, if he wants to make it clear how little affection he has for Goodison, then that’s ok.

But is it?

Just think about Lukaku’s behaviour since it became apparent he was off. Think about his indifference towards those who helped him become what he is. And then think about what he did on Sunday too. In that crowd were people who had paid his wages, who had sung his name, who had encouraged their children to idolise him (those same children were likely watching at home and could even have been in the stadium too). Then, to pour salt on the wound, he laughed it off as ‘banter’; the last refuge of the inescapably moronic.



Should the media have really let him off? Surely some exploration of his deliberate crassness was warranted? Apparently not

Instead, Lukaku (as has always been the case) was been given a free pass. It seems that exhibiting the behaviour of a petulant, self-entitled brat, so enamoured by his own ‘brilliance’ that he forgoes such redundant notions as gratitude or humility is acceptable. He will continue to grace the covers of magazines, be sought after for endorsements and remain an ever present face in the ‘Sky’ universe.

When footballers transgress, when they gamble, break the law, shag about or say something that is socially or politically questionable, the media goes for them. The position of a footballer as a ‘role model’ is brought to the fore. Their reputation can be diminished and with that the loss of wages, endorsements and valuable media appearances.



But when a footballer is simply a massive prick; that seems to be ok with the media. In these instances, their position as a ‘role model’ doesn’t appear to matter. And yet, I would argue that it is just as valid to question this behaviour. In the same way that you wouldn’t want your child to grow up thinking that drinking and driving, racist ‘banter’ or rampant misogyny is ok, you equally wouldn’t want them exhibiting the same character traits as someone like Lukaku.

In time, the animosity between Lukaku and Everton will unquestionably dissipate. In part, there is too little heat between the two clubs for it to continue (it’s not like he moved to Liverpool). But equally, it seems unlikely that United will be his last stop. This is a player in search of the top honours, both domestic and European, and it seems unlikely that United will be able to accommodate the latter.

But for a short time, and specifically at Goodison this season, we will likely have to put up with more ‘banter’ from our former forward. Some fans will unquestionably want to give him a hostile reaction. That’s understandable. But surely better to give him no reaction? That’s how you treat petulant toddlers after all. You don’t give them what they want.

He has chosen to act as though the past few years meant nothing to him. Perhaps we should do the same in return.

Is anyone really that bothered?
 
You need that bit of needle or else football would be very boring. He's a manc now, I didn't take it to heart when he gestured after the three goals, we were giving him loads during the game.
However.. class baller he may be, but an absolute tramp, mainly for when he was at Everton and belittled us on every international break. Unforgivable.. and for that he must be crushed in Goodison January 1st 2018.
 
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He was boss for West Brom though.


He was boss when he arrived though.


Dafuq does this mean?

The lad would often get dogs abuse from the stands.


LOL - sorry but that's bollocks mate.

@Tubey


That crowd that was calling him for everything?

I thought his reaction was restrained all things considered.


No, it does not.


I have no animosity toward Lukaku, it would appear to be you with the problem.


if anyone is being a petulant toddler it's you.

Embarrassing article.

Maybe it is an embarrassing article but it has been liked by 37 posters.That in itself is kind of telling really.If Rom thought Old Trafford was bad it will be nothing compared to Goodison on New Years day.
 

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