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Brennan said:
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He got injured earlier in the season (in the league, funnily enough) and they coped fine, it's as simple as that.
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Right. So is your argument now that Spurs haven't been hindered by their star player being injured? Is that really what you are saying, that Spurs are just as strong without Bale?

Spurs are weaker without Bale, I don't care what anyone says, especially when you are comparing win percentages over differing game totals. A win rate of 50% over 38 games amasses far more points than a win rate of 50% over just 8 games. And that's not even taking into consideration who those games may have been against.

Are you really trying to argue that losing star players doesn't hinder their team?
 

Artetafan said:
That's all fair enough.

I agree about risk and reward but I value the reward of a europa league trophy more than you and the risk of missing out of the top 4 less. Your position is reasonable enough, I just don't share it.
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Fair enough, mate. The world would be pretty boring if everyone agreed on everything.
 
CL or bust for me which we won't be getting now anyway, that £17 million is the difference between having a negredo or a jelavic people dont realise how good we actually are, only utd and citeh have lost less games than us with a 20 goal striker we would be regular top 4 challengers not doubt imo which is even more frustrating
 
Essex Blue said:
Right. So is your argument now that Spurs haven't been hindered by their star player being injured? Is that really what you are saying, that Spurs are just as strong without Bale?

Spurs are weaker without Bale, I don't care what anyone says, especially when you are comparing win percentages over differing game totals. A win rate of 50% over 38 games amasses far more points than a win rate of 50% over just 8 games. And that's not even taking into consideration who those games may have been against.

Are you really trying to argue that losing star players doesn't hinder their team?
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I think he's forgotten what he's arguing tbh, he just arguing for the sake of it imo. As was proven earlier when he refused to accept the simple FACT that Spurs have reduced their player expenditure compared to their CL season.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
I think he's forgotten what he's arguing tbh, he just arguing for the sake of it imo. As was proven earlier when he refused to accept the simple FACT that Spurs have reduced their player expenditure compared to their CL season.
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You haven't proven anything of the sort. Where are the numbers ? As Azzurri said, a lot of the players they got rid of were probably on low wages, then they signed half a dozen new internationals and gave their best player a new contract. The reduction in wages would not have been huge.

Still waiting for either of you to actually post any evidence that competing in Europe hinders league performance.
 
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Brennan said:
You haven't proven anything of the sort. Where are the numbers ?

Although it's funny, i never actually said they didn't do that. Still waiting for either of you to actually post any evidence that competing in Europe hinders league performance.
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The numbers? their ****ing accounts haven't been published yet, how can I give you the actuals? I gave you the FACT, that they've generated a transfer surplus of close to £30m in the 2 seasons since they last played in the CL & the FACT that they've trimmed their squad by 10 senior pro's in the same timeframe.

However, you're still trying to argue that this doesn't prove that they've reduced their player expenditure. LOL.

On the European issue, Ok then Brennan, you win, Spurs playing 12 additional EL games this season, has had a positive impact on their league campaign....oh hang on...............in the league games directly following their last 5 EL games they lost 3 of them, drew 1 & won 1..........but of course that's just a co-incidence.
 
If we made CL or Europe league we would strengthen our squad numbers therefore the extra games not being the end of the world. We clearly would NOT go with what we got!
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
The numbers? their ****ing accounts haven't been published yet, how can I give you the actuals? I gave you the FACT, that they've generated a transfer surplus of close to £30m in the 2 seasons since they last played in the CL & the FACT that they've trimmed their squad by 10 senior pro's in the same timeframe.

However, you're still trying to argue that this doesn't prove that they've reduced their player expenditure. LOL.

On the European issue, Ok then Brennan, you win, Spurs playing 12 additional EL games this season, has had a positive impact on their league campaign....oh hang on...............in the league games directly following their last 5 EL games they lost 3 of them, drew 1 & won 1..........but of course that's just a co-incidence.
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I never said they haven't reduced their player expenditure...

Spurs have lost some games, not sure what that proves. If you go through the whole season you'll see they have also won plenty of matches after European games. Still doesn't show that European games negatively affect league form.
 
Brennan said:
I never said they haven't reduced their player expenditure...

Spurs have lost some games, not sure what that proves. If you go through the whole season you'll see they have also won plenty of matches after European games. Still doesn't show that European games negatively affect league form.
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lol, so you challenging my facts on this issue & posting incomplete lists of players they've moved on, was trying to prove what exactly?

& oh right Brennan so the fact that they've lost 3 of the 5 league games after their most recent EL games (the knockout stages i.e. tougher games) doesn't suggest that the EL could have had any impact on them? Hilarious lad.

Troll away without me pet.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
lol, so you challenging my facts on this issue & posting incomplete lists of players they've moved on, was trying to prove what exactly?

& oh right Brennan so the fact that they've lost 3 of the 5 league games after their most recent EL games (the knockout stages i.e. tougher games) doesn't suggest that the EL could have had any impact on them? Hilarious lad.

Troll away without me pet.
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You said they've lost games after European matches, but that doesn't prove anything. In total they've won 5, lost 4 and drawn 1 after European matches.

They're still 5th and probably will be 4th after this weekend. Not exactly a bad season or one ruined by Europe.

Something that is interesting though:

Everton:

2005/06 - 50 points - Knocked out of Europe early
2006/07 - 58 points - No Europe
2007/08 - 65 points - 10 Euro games
2008/09 - 63 points - 2 Euro games
2009/10 - 61 points - 8 Euro games
2010/11 - 54 points - No Europe
2011/12 - 56 points - No Europe

Absolutely no evidence that Europe hinders league performance overall.
 

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