Fair play to the Esk, with Jim Whyte trying to lead him into 'have you stopped beating your wife yet' no-win, blind alleys with what about the stadium.
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brian labone
Player Valuation: £8m
On Saturday the chant should not be sack the board, it should be Moshiri get out of our club, its him who pulls the strings.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
No. But the fans DID play their part in Koeman, Allardyce and Silva's sackings.
Which is fair enough, we'd spent a fortune and seen nothing but terrible performances for it.
That's the nature of ANY fanbase.
Welcome to football, Farhad.
None of them should ever have been appointed.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
This is where any protest is undermined.
There's enough blame to go around here. The stampede to get someone like Silva out was probably key to this crisis.
It resulted in both the DoF being sidelined forever and a capable manager being fired.
We have to view our actions in hindsight, and they are now to be seen as part and parcel of the problem.
Brands I have no issue with being fired, he just wasn't up to it. But the way the owner reacted to angry fans to put the club model in the bin set the tone for our decline.
We all need to own some of this. Anything else is denial.
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4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Newcastle fans we once laughed at, they hounded the owner out, still not having it the club they support means more to the Geordies then Everton does to us.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
Sorry like, but I still maintain that Silva was probably the only smart appointment he's made
Not sure mate, I've got the memory of a goldfish.
Marco who?
I just know that In the end, I wanted him out too - which is saying something as I'm typically late to the party when it comes to wanting to sack managers.
I don’t own any of it, not arsed what your opinion is. I blame our owner squarely for where we are.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Yeah but its easy to see it now, but at the time it was obvious to anyone that Sam shouldnt of been sacked, you dont sack a manager who gets you to 8th when earlier in the season you worried about relegation. The fact at the time some wanted him out and some still think now it was right, is a clear indecation that some fans are clearly a part of Evertons problems
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
Yes and no - in an ideal world, he'd have been given more patience because he's a perfectly decent coach. The problems here were not all of his own making (in fact the majority of what went wrong probably wasn't his fault), but things had snowballed and it was toxic. Whether or not it counts for anything and regardless of where you place the blame for it, the atmosphere at Finch Farm had become similar. It's easy to say he should have stayed in hindsight, but at the time it would have been really hard to justify it.
EFC_FRANCIS
Player Valuation: £40m
The most that an owner can do. We've had good times
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
He's eloquent and he's knowledgable, which is why he was afforded 10 minutes on air with two bruisers like Jordan and White who usually interrupt constantly.
However, I think Jordan (who I detest, btw) could easily sidleine the Esk's argument about 'a culture of failure' pervading the club at ownership and governance level. That's easy meat to him as he just points to other fans in the PL who also perceive their hierarchy that way.
Overall I think there is a view of Everton's situation abroad that we have an owner who has been a net success for Everton in that he's provided cash and a new stadium to be completed...finally solving that issue. And I think Moshiri was very clever in skewering the fanbase planning to protest by saying they are complicit in managerial turnover which has been the key to our downfall. Which, of course, we have been.
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