Fans in general

[ElGato]

People would do well to disengage from social media, or at the very last stop taking it seriously.

Most of these fan disputes are just throwaway comments by people bored at work.

I dispute this wholeheartedly.

Would provide a reason but just been called into an urgent meeting

 

[gazzaa2]

Our fans will be our downfall...


There I said it.


Too quick to boo and get on the players backs.

Apart from all the games the crowd have won for us.

 

[street end]

He was asked and refused...

Yeah ok

 

[chicoazul]

You just keep reaching for the stars, you can do it!
Ps, I have no problem, with you Groucho, it was just a weak reason to start a new thread

That’s a respectable climb down Kev. Well done.

 

[magicjuan]

To get to their "better" we had to see a manager unseated.

Let's not be all coy about this: there were huge numbers of supporters who wanted this club beaten each week in order that Benitez lost his job. That had an effect on the whole organisation. We lost a lot of games because there was no cohesion in the club between fans manager and players. That's a funny way of wanting better.

It was an indulgence that's led us directly to this point where we've left it too late and we're dancing on the trap door with 3 other clubs and hoping the other three fall through it before we do.

That vocal and physical opposition to Benitez has done us untold damage. It might just have cost us our PL place.

Benitez gets appointed- it's where we are now. Where we were always going to be.
Better Evertonians than me stopped going to the game, as soon as he left they took their seats again, rightly so.
I was never 'that angry' about him, and had 100% belief in how it would play out, it lasted longer than I thought, or was dragged out by the board for too long.
So many loved the whole Brands is the bad guy stuff and backed the spaniard in the internal battle, and what was the gap between their departures?
We lost cohesion the moment he was considered. Everything afterwards was theatrics and ego and would end in one way only. Getting past that was wanting better. The quicker it happened the better. But it didn't. He lingered like a bad fart in a changing room, and because there are people still alluding to his support, there still is.

 

[davek]

Benitez gets appointed- it's where we are now. Where we were always going to be.
Better Evertonians than me stopped going to the game, as soon as he left they took their seats again, rightly so.
I was never 'that angry' about him, and had 100% belief in how it would play out, it lasted longer than I thought, or was dragged out by the board for too long.
So many loved the whole Brands is the bad guy stuff and backed the spaniard in the internal battle, and what was the gap between their departures?
We lost cohesion the moment he was considered. Everything afterwards was theatrics and ego and would end in one way only. Getting past that was wanting better. The quicker it happened the better. But it didn't. He lingered like a bad fart in a changing room, and because there are people still alluding to his support, there still is.

That's the indulgence that landed us where we are. People refusing to get behind the team because a certain manager is in charge; actively undermining him with messaging on forums, outside the ground, outside his own home and eventually in the sky above Goodison.

It was corrosive for our season. The calculation made by a lot of the people who prioritised his sacking was that they could stamp their feet hard enough to get him out before or just after Christmas when we were still around 14th / 15th and within reach of mid-table. But it dragged on beyond that point and it's handed a new manager a job and a half to get this lot buying into his methodology and transforming that to points on the board.

It was their gamble and Everton's PL status is in the balance now. Many of us wanted no part of gambling with the club's future. That's the bottom line here. So never mind deflecting away from that by suggesting the board were to blame for the manager and team not being backed. That's just a child-like failure to take responsibility.

 

[magicjuan]

That's the indulgence that landed us where we are. People refusing to get behind the team because a certain manager is in charge; actively undermining him with messaging on forums, outside the ground, outside his own home and eventually in the sky above Goodison.

It was corrosive for our season. The calculation made by a lot of the people who prioritised his sacking was that they could stamp their feet hard enough to get him out before or just after Christmas when we were still around 14th / 15th and within reach of mid-table. But it dragged on beyond that point and it's handed a new manager a job and a half to get this lot buying into his methodology and transforming that to points on the board.

It was their gamble and Everton's PL status is in the balance now. Many of us wanted no part of gambling with the club's future. That's the bottom line here. So never mind deflecting away from that by suggesting the board were to blame for the manager and team not being backed. That's just a child-like failure to take responsibility.

There's no child like about it, just about when the gamble took place,and in most peoples opinions, including supporters and pundits, that gamble, a huge one, began the moment he was given the job.
Such a divisive appointment. Such a risk. Not at Christmas, but before the season started.
Regardless of the r/s connection he was an outdated fossil, too arrogant to admit mistakes and very quickly lived up to his own reputation.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

All I'm taking from this thread is that we need to run every new thread idea past @kev101.

So Kev, can we start a new thread for you to sanction new thread ideas?

 

[davek]

There's no child like about it, just about when the gamble took place,and in most peoples opinions, including supporters and pundits, that gamble, a huge one, began the moment he was given the job.
Such a divisive appointment. Such a risk. Not at Christmas, but before the season started.
Regardless of the r/s connection he was an outdated fossil, too arrogant to admit mistakes and very quickly lived up to his own reputation.

The moment it was done there should have been 100% backing and unity. His critics could have retained their positions on him and not liked him being manager.

The fact it didn't happen that way has produced an existential threat to Everton's top flight status.

 

[Jeff Jones]

...is that a joke?

That's what you said. Don't you read back your own posts before you click send?

 

[Groucho]

You just keep reaching for the stars, you can do it!
Ps, I have no problem, with you Groucho, it was just a weak reason to start a new thread

I’ll put you down as ‘would deffo read again’.

 

[davek]

That's what you said. Don't you read back your own posts before you click send?

I;m highlighting you placing in bold those words that claim and asking how you can question that it happened.

Of course it happened. There's tweets with those players being screamed at by the away supporters and told to go back.

 

[KenyonLedford]

Apart from all the games the crowd have won for us.

YES. Only a retard claps for no reason

 

[KenyonLedford]

I;m highlighting you placing in bold those words that claim and asking how you can question that it happened.

Of course it happened. There's tweets with those players being screamed at by the away supporters and told to go back.

Is this an unscramble game?

 

[chicoazul]

Good thread this like.