Everton Youth Teams Thread

[TheBlueBlitzer]

Just no patterns of play or ideas. Felt like I was going mad how many times they tried that clipped ball from Patrick into Morgan. 4-2-4 just isn't viable at any level.

Yeah first half was bad, second half got a tiny bit better but not much, time to go smash people with my everton 4-2-4 team on ultimate team

 

[blueloon]

They surely can't go into next season with Southern in charge. How did he not learn from the Plymouth game

Yep Plymouth all over again , talented players outnumbered in midfield and stuck to the same formation too long, whereas in the Baines days we were flexible and changed formation mid match.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

Just no patterns of play or ideas. Felt like I was going mad how many times they tried that clipped ball from Patrick into Morgan. 4-2-4 just isn't viable at any level.

The first half there was no left winger at all just van schoor putting in hopeful low balls into the box. And the right side was just Clarke fall8ng over his feet with no right back support at all. As for the centre midfield with not enough numbers to get a foothold it was just a mish mash of players who didn't have any clue in what they were meant to do in building a platform to play from. Seems the youth set ups need some changes and better ideas

 

[blueloon]

He was definitely at Oldham

Ah ok , it’s down as Stockport Schools FA s

 

[TheBlueBlitzer]

The first half there was no left winger at all just van schoor putting in hopeful low balls into the box. And the right side was just Clarke fall8ng over his feet with no right back support at all. As for the centre midfield with not enough numbers to get a foothold it was just a mish mash of players who didn't have any clue in what they were meant to do in building a platform to play from. Seems the youth set ups need some changes and better ideas

Yeah we do need better youth coaches, like even baines is still pretty new to it (with moyes now) it should be implemented to play with same style is the first time obviously different quality players but still my take is should play same formation as first team with similiar press and play style

 

[Marcus Kendall]

Yeah we do need better youth coaches, like even baines is still pretty new to it (with moyes now) it should be implemented to play with same style is the first time obviously different quality players but still my take is should play same formation as first team with similiar press and play style

Totally agree, why we don't look at successful academies like Ajax and the way they have their teams all playing the same way I'll never understand. Hopefully with the Friedkin Group they will look into the long term instead of Moshiri's scattergun approach

 

[TheBlueBlitzer]

Totally agree, why we don't look at successful academies like Ajax and the way they have their teams all playing the same way I'll never understand. Hopefully with the Friedkin Group they will look into the long term instead of Moshiri's scattergun approach

I cant remember who it was but im pretty sure one of our previous managers made it happen, maybe carlo? and then we took away 90% atleast of the training for the unders..

 

[Marcus Kendall]

I cant remember who it was but im pretty sure one of our previous managers made it happen, maybe carlo? and then we took away 90% atleast of the training for the unders..

Could of been Carlo though I never associate him as a long term vision kind of manager, he wouldn't even give Gordon any game time so he was pretty much a results now kind of manager

 

[mightymoyes]

Yeah we do need better youth coaches, like even baines is still pretty new to it (with moyes now) it should be implemented to play with same style is the first time obviously different quality players but still my take is should play same formation as first team with similiar press and play style

Problem is we change manager that often, the first team does not have any particular style of play and hasn't for donkeys

 

[ToffeeTim]

Problem is we change manager that often, the first team does not have any particular style of play and hasn't for donkeys

I've never been sure on the playing the same way argument. Yes there are certain things we want to do well across all levels but I think we want our first team to be able to play more than one way.

Lots of managers fail at the top level because they either don't know how to adapt or don't want to adapt.

I think it's more about improving individual players at that level than a specific system.

 

[sw blue]

Thought 20 was good when he came on. As others have said, the 4-2-4 just didn't look like it suited anyone.

Just needs to decide which of Loney or Morgan to put on the bench and a 4-3-3 would have given the midfield more support.

 

[TheBlueBlitzer]

Could of been Carlo though I never associate him as a long term vision kind of manager, he wouldn't even give Gordon any game time so he was pretty much a results now kind of manager

It was either carlo, brown shoes or silva but i remember them talking about playing the same way through the age groups

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Yep Plymouth all over again , talented players outnumbered in midfield and stuck to the same formation too long, whereas in the Baines days we were flexible and changed formation mid match.

Know it was for the greater good but it does feel like losing Baines mid-season was a real setback for those lads who were going really well under him.

 

[TheBlueBlitzer]

Problem is we change manager that often, the first team does not have any particular style of play and hasn't for donkeys

Well we have been stuck in 4231 for years now but i understand what you are saying. But i guess that is where a DOF should step in and direct some football thoughout the teams

 

[Marcus Kendall]

It was either carlo, brown shoes or silva but i remember them talking about playing the same way through the age groups

Yes I remember that being talked about but like you I'm not sure which manager was in charge. Not sure if was a Brand's vision or an early Thelwell idea