We have loads of back ups
We need players to slot into the first 11
GK, CB ,RW and possibly a RB
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We need players to slot into the first 11
GK, CB ,RW and possibly a RB
Paul Rideout
Player Valuation: £35m
Totally agree. I don't have any confidence in any of our Allan/Doucoure backups, but Obvs outgoings are the priority (31 is too much), followed by what you've said. Personally I feel we might get one of those in if we're lucky, 2 if marcel performs outgoing miricles.
When think about a transfer target now I think we need to consider if they would be a target for the teams who have been scrapping for top four positions for the last few years.
That is the level we need to be at as well. Players that can play at a high level or young players that have the ability to develop into players who can perform at a high level.
I see names suggested on here as possible targets who would not have been acceptable twelve months ago under Marco Silva never mind now under CA.
We got Allan because he didn't get on with the manager and they needed money , we got JR because Real Madrid seem to have forgotten just how good he is and he had a good relationship with our manager we got Doucoure because Watford were relegated.
I think we are looking at quality targets but many of them will just be out of our reach.... at present. We are looking at players possibly coming to the end of their contract or maybe somebody who has been sidelined in a big squad at a major club as JR was. Milik is mentioned because his contract is up in less than twelve months and almost definitely will be sold, although maybe not to us.
We are also looking at young targets i my opinion and I saw somebody mention Ben Godfrey earlier and I could well se us having an interest in a young versatile player like him where maybe the fee would be affordable.
That is the level we need to be at as well. Players that can play at a high level or young players that have the ability to develop into players who can perform at a high level.
I see names suggested on here as possible targets who would not have been acceptable twelve months ago under Marco Silva never mind now under CA.
We got Allan because he didn't get on with the manager and they needed money , we got JR because Real Madrid seem to have forgotten just how good he is and he had a good relationship with our manager we got Doucoure because Watford were relegated.
I think we are looking at quality targets but many of them will just be out of our reach.... at present. We are looking at players possibly coming to the end of their contract or maybe somebody who has been sidelined in a big squad at a major club as JR was. Milik is mentioned because his contract is up in less than twelve months and almost definitely will be sold, although maybe not to us.
We are also looking at young targets i my opinion and I saw somebody mention Ben Godfrey earlier and I could well se us having an interest in a young versatile player like him where maybe the fee would be affordable.
Why waste money on backups
If we buy a GK then Pickford becomes backup
If we buy a RB then Coleman becomes back up etc etc
said “Who?” When asked about Walcott
The Allan/Doucouré back up will be Gbamin. He was bought to replace Gueye. I doubt we can afford a punt on another CDM while we have him on the books.
brian labone
Player Valuation: £5m
I don't think the reason we are short of money is why we are a bit slower in bringing in more players, I think its because we need to reduce the size of the squad and get rid of the rubbish first.
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
There is no obsession with Zouma. Some on here like him, some don't.
He's a player with the attributes we're probably missing in our current centre backs, namely pace and power, but personally I'd rather not do business with Chelsea at all. They're pains in the arse.
AussieToffee11
Player Valuation: £8m
I'm more excited about the out-goings than any potential in-coming. Am I weird, or just scared by some of the horrific players we have had to endure over the last couple of years?
n01efc
Player Valuation: £20m
Google says your right! Not sure why I thought that.He’s right footed isn’t he?
Zatara
Player Valuation: £90m
So youre disagreeing with me. Sorry i didnt follow your initial point.
I see now that you rate Bernard, Iwobi and Kenny as good enough players for the squad. Players that you would be happy starting in the first eleven.
Fair enough, all about opinions.
Youve literally just disagreed with me and provided the names of, Bernard, Iwobi and Kenny as good enough players for the squad and first eleven.
Now youre listing several of the positions i mentioned (which you disagreed with)?
How peculiar.
Funnily enough, the players I mentioned and those very same positions were the exact same ones i posted about...which you disagreed with
Whoops! Youre all over the place now.
One minute Kenny is good enough and now he isnt!
Disagree with me....then agree with me...
Then double down on agreeing with me!
No doubt a sudden riposte with some 'amusing' caveat about kids or other nonsense.
How bizarre...
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
Presumably one of Keane, Holgate and Mina is to be classed as a back up. I'm very happy with that and I'm pretty sure most on here are too. Gbamin will be classed as a back up. It would be very unfair on him to say that most on here think he's not good enough. Bernard is somebody else you can say is good as back up. Very skillfull player who I believe will impress more with players around him on the same wavelength. Sigurdsson get's a lot of stick on here, but played in the right position (centrally further forward) he'd be a very good option to bring on in games we're controlling and we want to rest, say James. There's not many teams outside the top 6 that can call on a replacement with so much experience and ability.
You've described our back up (part from the 6 in the 18-20 category) as incredibly weak. I would say that none of those I've just mentioned are incredibly weak. I think we need to improve our right back, notwithstanding Seamus's fantastic start to the season. He just doesn't have it in his legs to do it all the time. And I also would like another winger for games when we may want to play James in a more withdrawn role. Somebody with pace and a good end product in terms of goals and assists. Gordon may become that player.
So I reckon we are 2 players short of a good squad that can challenge top 4 this year, provided we stay relatively injury free and continue to get the run of the decisions we've received in the first few games.
If you look at other teams benches, even the top clubs, they aren't scaring me too much at the moment. City had no striker last night and a 17 yo on the bench. Liverpool played a midfielder at centre back, and have no cover at right back if Gomez is injured. Spurs bench didn't scare me when we played them.
ToffeeDevil
Player Valuation: £15m
chelsea can't afford to ship zouma or tomori out right now
Carlito
Player Valuation: £40m
It would obviously be disappointing if the season ended up being undermined by a lack of quality in reserve, but at least the three new signings have given Ancelotti a fighting chance. The last thing we wanted was to be in a position where the club couldn't walk away from a bad deal late on (eg Iwobi), so the window has already been a success from that perspective.
If I had to guess, I'd say that there'll be a few loans / cheap transfers in and out nearer to the deadline.
Milik in for Kean would be an excellent start.
If I had to guess, I'd say that there'll be a few loans / cheap transfers in and out nearer to the deadline.
Milik in for Kean would be an excellent start.
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