Everton Summer transfers 2021

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Simon Buttle said:
He is a possibility especially given the fact he was subbed off early the other day, we should defo be in there if he comes up for sale.
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Didn't he sign a six figure a week contract with Chelsea to fend off Bayern's interest. At his age he'll want a raise or, at the very least, parity with his current deal. It doesn't seem like a very Brandsesque signing.
 

Tree13 said:
And Delph.
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I'm not sure how accurate that list is (there's no way DCL is still on £20k a week after his latest deal, for example) but if £80k a week is anywhere close to being accurate that has been an enormous waste of money. Delph is deffo up there for worst value for money signings. What was his transfer fee? £8m? And £7m in wages so far. That's £15m for 21 ineffectual appearances.
 
Verbal Kint said:
https://www.spotrac.com/epl/everton-fc/payroll/#

I nearly choked when i seen Bernard,Mina and Gomes are the highest earners at the club. They need binning, Mina has been great this year, but with Holgate,Keane and Godfrey all contracted until 2025 and Braintwaite due back it's bye bye.
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As I keep telling people, those lists arent even close to being true.

They say our annual salary is 100m a year, when its 162m.

Its widely reported that Hamez is on 140k a week for a start.
 
Tree13 said:
I would have thought two Americans would understand roster management better, given that it's such a big thing in the NFL.

@carolinablue232 they key is the very last word you've used: needs. If we wait until we NEED a CB we will get hammered in the transfer market, because everyone will know we need one. Instead we can use our current position of strength in depth at CB to create money, which can then be used to improve other areas of the squad where we a re currently desperately short. I'm not saying we HAVE to do it, i'm just saying it's a valid approach. Selling Keane when he is highly-valued by other clubs is better than selling him when he's finished (see Ashley Williams as an example) and we shouldn't ever sell a player if doing so would leave us scrambling about for cover in that position. It's the Ozzie Newsome school of roster management.

@TheBigIguana I would not be confused at all if the following happened:

a) Carlo or Brands identify younger hot prospect CB available at a decent fee (say, £22m) - let's call him "Ken Bodfrey"
b) Club signs Ken Bodfrey.
c) Ken Bodfrey makes a series of appearances, generally impressing everyone.
d) Six months later, another CB (let's call him "Terry Zina" ) at Everton is approaching contract renegotiation time.
e) Terry Zina is seen to be one of the two "best" CBs at Everton BUT he's on a big wage.
f) Terry's agent says "Give my client a big pay rise or he walks".
g) Everton has Ken Bodfrey waiting in the wings, so the agent has little leverage.
h) Everton says "we're offering £xyz. That's it. If you want to find your client another club during a global pandemic, go for it. We will want a fee of £40m as your client is still under contract, is in his mid-20s and has been playing well in the Prem."

Now this is where it gets fun. Either:

i) Agent finds a club interested in signing Terry Zina.
j) Terry leaves Everton in the summer for £40m, replaced in the lineup by Ken Bodfrey.
k) Everton uses the £40m to help fund a new RB / RW / CM / some lawnmowers / whatever

OR

i) Agent backs down, Terry signs new deal, stays at Everton on a wage the club can sustain.
j) Everton start researching which clubs are likely to be in need of a CB in the summer.
k) If clubs needing CBs are identified, Everton approach the agent of their other "best" CB at the club (let's call him "Cycle Bean")
l) Everton say to Cycle Bean's agent "there's a chance here for you, your client and us to make some cash. If you can get a personal terms agreeable to your client, we would accept a fee of £35m for him (plus any increments deemed sensible). If no-one's biting, no harm done."
m) agent either gets a couple of offers on the table for Cycle Bean or he doesn't.
n) If offers are there, Everton sells Cycle Bean for a profit and replaces him in the lineup with Ken Bodfrey. The funds generated by the sale go towards RB / RW / CM / lawnmowers

The point is Mina and Keane are assets, with fluctuating values. As good as they are, we aren't winning trophies unless we upgrade other parts of the team. We need cash to upgrade the team. We have a very able third CB who could conceivably step up and replace one of Mina or Keane permanently, AND we have another promising young CB out on loan who could become part of the squad next September if needed. That's before even considering if Carlo or Brands have spotted another young CB available on a decent fee...

You don't sell players from a position where you have no cover. You don't sell players who have a low market value. You don't wait until players are on the decline before you try to shift them.

There are lots of sensible financial / business reasons why Mina or Keane could leave the club in the summer and, if handled correctly, it would be advisable for the club to consider doing so. Having said that, if we don't need to improve cashflow then sure, we stand pat.
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This is correct.

Its similar to how Atletico Madrid built their success. A decent offer comes in and the player is out the door and a younger player with a higher ceiling is signed.

They brought in the odd 28+ year old player but the main focus was selling when players are at peak value and replacing.

You look at Keane (highest value) and Mina (2 years on contract) and think...

"Are either of these two world class? Can I replace with a player who I think will/can become world class?"

If Ancelotti wants to go with 3 centre backs then he'll need 5 or 6 players.

Keane
Mina
Holgate
Godfrey
Branthwaite
Coleman (RCB)
Digne (LCB)
Gbamin (?)

We would need to keep one of Keane/Mina for the centre of the 3 but could easily sell the other. I actually think Branthwaite will be the player to be there long term as it stands. With a right back signed we wont 'need' to add defenders aside from adding another branthwaite type to bring through.

In a 4 we could sell both Keane and Mina and replace with 1 elite centre back. Godfrey + Holgate + Branthwaite + the best centre back Ancelotti/Brands can find with £60/70mil to spend?

Yes please...

Any cash over of course goes towards strengthening other areas.
 

UptheTofees said:
HUGE summer
Active and smart summer means we are competing for the league next year

RB, CM, and a winger

We got this
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Wont be the league.

The 1st step is european football
2nd step champions league
3rd step consistent champions league

If we get top 4 this season then we jump to point 3.

Verbal Kint said:
https://www.spotrac.com/epl/everton-fc/payroll/#

I nearly choked when i seen Bernard,Mina and Gomes are the highest earners at the club. They need binning, Mina has been great this year, but with Holgate,Keane and Godfrey all contracted until 2025 and Braintwaite due back it's bye bye.
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Some seem realistic but others are way off.

windymiller said:
I'm not sure how accurate that list is (there's no way DCL is still on £20k a week after his latest deal, for example) but if £80k a week is anywhere close to being accurate that has been an enormous waste of money. Delph is deffo up there for worst value for money signings. What was his transfer fee? £8m? And £7m in wages so far. That's £15m for 21 ineffectual appearances.
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Delph is probably realistic. Thats why i keep going on about this and next summer being key to us as alot of our deadwoods contracts expire.

MikelsGoat said:
As I keep telling people, those lists arent even close to being true.

They say our annual salary is 100m a year, when its 162m.

Its widely reported that Hamez is on 140k a week for a start.
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Theres no way Keane is on £65k and Mina £120k.

Huge disparity after Keanes new contract.

Also Gomes on such a high salary would be madness really, though i suppose it could be parity to his barca salary.

Just shows with Gomes/Bernard how hard it is to sell them.
 
Deco said:
Wait, are people saying they don't rate Pulisic?

How can anyone watch him and not see his talent? He reminds me of Hazard.
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He's no peak Hazard, talented as he is, but Chelsea also aren't selling him to a direct rival in a million years. It's crazy that Tuchel of all people would deem him surplus to requirements, but it is what it is and it's not like Chelsea will be taking a loss.

Bayern doing some long-term planning by picking him up makes some sense - in the short run he'd be scrapping with Muller for minutes, but Bayern has always been good about planning around key players in their 30s dropping off. See: Ribery and Robben.
 
Tree13 said:
I would have thought two Americans would understand roster management better, given that it's such a big thing in the NFL.

@carolinablue232 they key is the very last word you've used: needs. If we wait until we NEED a CB we will get hammered in the transfer market, because everyone will know we need one. Instead we can use our current position of strength in depth at CB to create money, which can then be used to improve other areas of the squad where we a re currently desperately short. I'm not saying we HAVE to do it, i'm just saying it's a valid approach. Selling Keane when he is highly-valued by other clubs is better than selling him when he's finished (see Ashley Williams as an example) and we shouldn't ever sell a player if doing so would leave us scrambling about for cover in that position. It's the Ozzie Newsome school of roster management.

@TheBigIguana I would not be confused at all if the following happened:

a) Carlo or Brands identify younger hot prospect CB available at a decent fee (say, £22m) - let's call him "Ken Bodfrey"
b) Club signs Ken Bodfrey.
c) Ken Bodfrey makes a series of appearances, generally impressing everyone.
d) Six months later, another CB (let's call him "Terry Zina" ) at Everton is approaching contract renegotiation time.
e) Terry Zina is seen to be one of the two "best" CBs at Everton BUT he's on a big wage.
f) Terry's agent says "Give my client a big pay rise or he walks".
g) Everton has Ken Bodfrey waiting in the wings, so the agent has little leverage.
h) Everton says "we're offering £xyz. That's it. If you want to find your client another club during a global pandemic, go for it. We will want a fee of £40m as your client is still under contract, is in his mid-20s and has been playing well in the Prem."

Now this is where it gets fun. Either:

i) Agent finds a club interested in signing Terry Zina.
j) Terry leaves Everton in the summer for £40m, replaced in the lineup by Ken Bodfrey.
k) Everton uses the £40m to help fund a new RB / RW / CM / some lawnmowers / whatever

OR

i) Agent backs down, Terry signs new deal, stays at Everton on a wage the club can sustain.
j) Everton start researching which clubs are likely to be in need of a CB in the summer.
k) If clubs needing CBs are identified, Everton approach the agent of their other "best" CB at the club (let's call him "Cycle Bean")
l) Everton say to Cycle Bean's agent "there's a chance here for you, your client and us to make some cash. If you can get a personal terms agreeable to your client, we would accept a fee of £35m for him (plus any increments deemed sensible). If no-one's biting, no harm done."
m) agent either gets a couple of offers on the table for Cycle Bean or he doesn't.
n) If offers are there, Everton sells Cycle Bean for a profit and replaces him in the lineup with Ken Bodfrey. The funds generated by the sale go towards RB / RW / CM / lawnmowers

The point is Mina and Keane are assets, with fluctuating values. As good as they are, we aren't winning trophies unless we upgrade other parts of the team. We need cash to upgrade the team. We have a very able third CB who could conceivably step up and replace one of Mina or Keane permanently, AND we have another promising young CB out on loan who could become part of the squad next September if needed. That's before even considering if Carlo or Brands have spotted another young CB available on a decent fee...

You don't sell players from a position where you have no cover. You don't sell players who have a low market value. You don't wait until players are on the decline before you try to shift them.

There are lots of sensible financial / business reasons why Mina or Keane could leave the club in the summer and, if handled correctly, it would be advisable for the club to consider doing so. Having said that, if we don't need to improve cashflow then sure, we stand pat.
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I'd give this 20 likes if I could. Sticky this post with a "READ THIS before posting about transfers", IMO.
 
Lucas Vasquez has been linked a few times in the past days...

Leaving Madrid in the summer, out of contract.

Could be our new right winger / or a very attack minded full / wing back...
 

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