Everton Players - Last 15 Years

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Legend like world class is one of those temrs that is all but useless because it means something different to everyone.

If you think that there are 50 or 100 everton legends then yeah Cahill makes the grade. But if you're arguing that only the very best count as legends, he doesn't. Or if you judge legend status purely on talent and success vs emotional attachment.
 
So the only people who are legends are the ones who win things ?

Bollocks to that.

It's absurd.

What about lower league clubs? Their fans can't regard any of their players as legends because they don't win major trophies?

Plenty of utterly terrible players and people have more trophies than Tim Cahill. Tim is a legend because he epitomised this club, but his body on the line selflessly for the club and his country, spoke his mind, set a fantastic example for younger players, overcame adversity and put downs to achieve beyond all expectation and also because he truly got it.

Tim Cahill is a legend to me, and anyone who has the audacity to tell me otherwise is a royal we [Poor language removed].
 
It's absurd.

What about lower league clubs? Their fans can't regard any of their players as legends because they don't win major trophies?

Plenty of utterly terrible players and people have more trophies than Tim Cahill. Tim is a legend because he epitomised this club, but his body on the line selflessly for the club and his country, spoke his mind, set a fantastic example for younger players, overcame adversity and put downs to achieve beyond all expectation and also because he truly got it.

Tim Cahill is a legend to me, and anyone who has the audacity to tell me otherwise is a royal we [Poor language removed].

He's not a legend. Football existed before Sky started telling you what to think.
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We're Everton, not f*cking Wigan. Cahill would be a legend at Wigan no doubt.
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I suggest reading up a bit on our history to see some legends like I've labelled earlier.
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The problem with your generation is that everything has to be "the best ever man" when it's quite clearly not.
 
He's not a legend. Football existed before Sky started telling you what to think.
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We're Everton, not f*cking Wigan. Cahill would be a legend at Wigan no doubt.
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I suggest reading up a bit on our history to see some legends like I've labelled earlier.
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The problem with your generation is that everything has to be "the best ever man" when it's quite clearly not.

You've been slacking on your popcorn push-ups lid.
 
Look at the players he's quoted there lad. Dixie Dean- world footballs greatest ever goal scorer.
Alan Ball-world class midfielder and world cup winner. Neville Southall- at his peak the worlds best 'keeper bar none. Howard Kendall-title winner and member of the 'holy trinity'.

Tim Cahill- above average Premier League attacking midfielder.

I understand the affection for Tim Iroegbunam really do but legend he ain't.
Love it. Like you I can understand the affection but no. Like Jock said about Ferguson, cult hero. Maybe we could call them Icon of an era. Bright star in a dark age*










I'm quoting Joni Mitchell there
 
It's absurd.

What about lower league clubs? Their fans can't regard any of their players as legends because they don't win major trophies?

Plenty of utterly terrible players and people have more trophies than Tim Cahill. Tim is a legend because he epitomised this club, but his body on the line selflessly for the club and his country, spoke his mind, set a fantastic example for younger players, overcame adversity and put downs to achieve beyond all expectation and also because he truly got it.

Tim Cahill is a legend to me, and anyone who has the audacity to tell me otherwise is a royal we [Poor language removed].

In ten years Tim Cahill will be largely forgotten. In 100 years people will still be talking about Dixie, Bally and big Nev. Thats the difference between an idol and a legend.
 
Love it. Like you I can understand the affection but no. Like Jock said about Ferguson, cult hero. Maybe we could call them Icon of an era. Bright star in a dark age*

He's a legend of this era, like Dunc. Like it or not in this (my) era, we're not all that. That doesn't mean we can't have players who make a gigantic impact on the club and the fans. Whilst past legends had higher levels of skill and ability, that reflected the era. The past 20 years have been more dogged and less pretty, and so players with a lot of grit and passion like Dunc and Timmy are what I consider to be modern day legends.

It's beyond arrogant that older fans think they have the right to tell me who is and isn't a highly subjective word of praise. Ferguson and Cahill, that's it for me. Cult heroes are the likes of Tommy G, Lee Carsley, Dave Watson etc, I think.

Ultimately "legend" means different things to different people, from different eras. But like my dad told me about Southall and Sheedy and my Granddad told me about Ball and Harvey, I'll be telling my kids about Big Duncan Ferguson and Tiny Tim Cahill. No the tales won't be as glamorous, but I'll tell them with as much pride and passion and the hairs will still stand up on the back of my neck.
 
well I can't argue with that

I get exactly what you're saying like, but i think it's silly to draw a set of rules about what does and doesn't define an Everton legend.

Tim Cahill is an Everton legend to me because of his unique style, being small but so strong in the air, getting Everton and more broadly scousers, giving everything to Everton even when he was travelling to and from Australia for international duty, the goals he scored against the shoite, and the fact that he along with Arteta was one of the standouts of the past decade. He played through injuries when others would have rested themselves, and he provided some of the most memorable moments of the past ten years.

He will be the player people remember from the Moyes era.
 
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