Everton: ground share idea builds on interwoven past

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Fanzine Fanzone - Times Online - WBLG: Everton: ground share idea builds on interwoven past

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Ed Bottomley

Last week David Moyes threw his tuppence worth into the footballing wishing well. He has a lot to wish for: fitness, points and a new place to call home. Close to the top of his list must be an end to the stadium worries that stalk him – and Moyes stuck his neck out saying that he wasn’t opposed to sharing a ground with Liverpool.

None of us should be against sharing a stadium with Liverpool, no matter how much our knees jerk against it. The rivalry between the Blues and the Reds is different from others; we are related. People forget that back in the sepia-tinged pre-history of football, we sloshed about in the same primordial soup. For nearly 30 years we shared a matchday programme – with Everton and Liverpool Reserves one week, and Liverpool and Everton Reserves the next. There is a natural symmetry to a ground share with the Reds. One club sliced into two early in our common history. Now we could be grafted together like conjoined twins, once split but reunited again; still with our own identities but sharing living space. The Allianz Arena in Munich offers obvious inspiration; depending on who is playing there the whole exterior is lit up in blue, red, or white (a nice touch for a bid to be a World Cup stadium). The commercial logic is as certain as death and taxes. It is cold, hard and brutal. Match-day takings at the Emirates Stadium average £3.3m, the equivalent figure at Goodison is £800,000 and at Anfield £1.3m. And both clubs are falling further behind; we are running barefoot in sand, Arsenal, Man United, City, Chelsea and (soon) Spurs are on a track, wearing spikes and taking steroids. Sharing a state-of-the-art stadium would, not only substantially increase match-day revenues, but also reduce the stadium operating costs for each club, thus leaving us both in a stronger financial position.

For fans though, this isn’t about sensibly stated facts, it’s about deep-rooted emotions. No Evertonian wants to say goodbye to Goodison because we worry that we would be waving adieu to all the legends and memories. Dixie Dean, the gluttonous striker who went from zero to sixty in one season. Tommy Lawton, our Brylcreemed assassin, shooting daggers at goal whenever he played or Alex Young, fine bone china skillfully sliding through a bull market of defenders. As these tales, and countless more, are passed on we still have Goodison to frame them. Both clubs have stellar histories – and the stardust must sit heavily on the shoulders of the current players.
But what if we leave the Old Lady? The very real fear of many is that if we turn our back on Goodison we turn away everything that has made us great, and our history would float off into the horizon until it is a tiny speck. When baseball fans drive past the old Detroit Tigers ground, where Joe DiMaggio and Babe Ruth played, they wistfully pine for the old wooden stadium, forgetting about the glorious new one. History warps and twists in our hearts and perhaps occupies more space than it should. Matthew Syed has written about the “recency effect”, where there is a “tendency to weigh recent events more than earlier events” but equally we should not be ruled by history, a place where legends grow and the truth sometimes shrinks.

The barren interregnum between the mid-eighties and now, with both teams still striving for anything like the success they had back then, has clearly frayed nerves. The media leeches and ticks want to chime in, but this isn’t their debate – this is our decision, not theirs.

Somewhere along the line, the friendly derby took on a nasty tinge, and many fans sway against a groundshare between the two clubs. Even at its very worst though, the relationship between Blue and Red on Merseyside isn’t even close to Barca-Real or Rangers-Celtic; teams press-ganged by history into mutual enmity. This is neither Spanish morbo nor religious sectarianism nor Italian vendetta. This is sibling rivalry. There was a time when we sat together, sang together (”Merseyside, Merseyside!”) and dominated the league together. This changed. We hate it when our friends become successful. We are jealous because they didn’t miss the boat for the top four like we did. We now get under their skin because we are starting to catch up after years spent beached at the wrong half of the table.

Cabbies Jimmy Plunkett and Tommy Atkinson set up a mile of red and blue scarves, an umbilical cord from Anfield to Goodison after the Hillsbrough Disaster. After Rhys Jones’ murder, Z-Cars played at Anfield and the Liverpool Unites charity put Everton in purple shirts – mixing the colours of the two tribes. Does solidarity like this always have to come after tragedy? Special-relationship is an overused and cliched phrase, parrotted out by goons like Bush and Blair – but like it or not Everton and Liverpool do have a special relationship.

Some will shake their heads until this idea is shot down. Some Reds will scream until their faces turn blue, and some Blues will shout until their cheeks turn red. But to retain our history, a communal stadium with Liverpool, is the best idea for the People’s Club: fact. How can we guarantee that we don’t see our hard fought history flutter away? By combining with our historic rivals, meeting across Stanley Park, by swallowing our pride and sharing with the enemy in a halfway house of Blue and Red. A stadium that befits the most successful footballing square mile in Britain.

As it stands Merseyside could lose out to that footballing mecca, Milton Keynes, in the 2018 World Cup stakes. It is time for a proper debate; it is time to hear from Kenwright and Earl, Hicks and Gillett and from Liverpool City Council, whose diffidence is a disgrace.
 

Personally think its a poor article.

"But to retain our history, a communal stadium with Liverpool, is the best idea for the People’s Club: fact"

Nothing worse than when an opinion is claimed as fact.
 

This part:

There was a time when we sat together, sang together (”Merseyside, Merseyside!”)

I remember it from the 1st time I saw the Blues - Charity Shield 1984. I think that was better.

I actually think the article is quote well reasoned and it would certainly make economic sense to groundshare. But that does ignore the non-financial elements that make football what it is.

My view: groundshare is fine as long as we can move Dixie's statue and have it right outside the front entrance.
 
Its a well written piece, but for a city like Liverpool not to be able to have two world class stadiums and two world class sides.

Heres some facts I just learnt from Wiki.

Liverpool used to be called 'Europe's New York'
Liverpool's wealth exceeded London's
Liverpool was also the site of the UK's first provincial airport, operating from 1930.
By the start of the 19th century, 40% of the world's trade was passing through Liverpool and the construction of major buildings reflected this wealth.
Ferries, Transatlantic Steamships, Railways and municipal trams were all pioneered in Liverpool.
The first School for the Blindhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool#cite_note-14, High School for Girls, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool#cite_note-16council house and Juvenile Court were all founded in Liverpool. The RSPCAhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool#cite_note-19, NSPCChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool#cite_note-20, Age Concernhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool#cite_note-21, Relate, Citizens Advice Bureau http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool#cite_note-22and Legal Aid all evolved from work in the city.
In the field of public health, the first lifeboat station, public baths and wash-houses,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool#cite_note-23 sanitary act, medical office for healthhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool#cite_note-24, district Nurse, slum clearance, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool#cite_note-25purpose-built ambulance, X-ray medical diagnosis, School of Tropical Medicine, motorised municipal fire-engine,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool#cite_note-28 free school milk and school meals, cancer research centre, and zoonosis research centre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool#cite_note-31all originated in Liverpool. The first British Nobel Prize was awarded in 1902 to Ronald Ross, professor at the School of Tropical Medicine. Modern medical anaesthetics were pioneered in Liverpool by Thomas Cecil Gray.
In finance, Liverpool founded the UK's first Underwriters' Association and the first Institute of Accountants. The Western world's first financial derivatives (cotton futures) were traded on the Liverpool Cotton Exchange in the late 1700s.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool#cite_note-34
In the arts, Liverpool was home to the first lending library, atheneum society, arts centrehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool#cite_note-35 and public art conservation centrehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool#cite_note-36.
In 1897, the Lumière brothers filmed Liverpool, including what is believed to be the world's first tracking shot, taken from the Liverpool Overhead Railway.


WTF happened Liverpool?
 

Pretty much spot on other than the "Bush & Blair goons" comment which was really uncalled for.

Guess the writer was trying to score a few points.

Failed miserably.
 
My sense is that the only relationship RS would want at this point is a landlord/tenant situation. Their ground. Their stands. Their memorials. Everton money going into their coffers during our "home" matches.

We could use some leadership here. I think now would be a good time to get some brains together both from within the Everton family and from outside architectural experts around the world. We've spent so much time and money trying to escape Goodison Park that we've turned a questionable concept, i.e. the need to leave GP, into the equivalent of religious doctrine.

It is time to take another look at Goodison Park, explore what other clubs in world sport have done with grounds in similar urban spaces, and work to build a future where Everton isn't funding RS at New Anfield.
 

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