Everton FC investigate homophobic chants from own supporters vs Chelsea

[evertonarntwe]

Nah, it's not really that hard mate. Just don't sing songs that might upset a large group of people, many of whom are in our own fanbase.

All this whataboutery doesn't really change the central point which is, it doesn't belong in the modern game. Times change, roll with it.

Upset a large group of people?

I'd say a very small group of people

99% aren't arsed in the slightest

 

[LEONARD]

Sad, as it distracts from what was a fantastic afternoon.

Proof that we have a long way to go re this issue.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

The lack of recognition of that is strange don’t you think?

I’m not sure that there has been no recognition of the distasteful “feed the scousers” songs sung by away fans. I’ve read quite a few articles on that subject over the years where writers condemn fans who sing it, though I’ll concede it’s not quite the same kind of “campaign” as rainbow laces.

Perhaps in some corners, tackling homophobia may feel like a “quicker win” as it’s largely behavioural rather than tackling the structural aspects that have seen food banks and poverty rise. In any case, I don’t think it’s particularly strange that the coverage of that is disproportionately less than the coverage of homophobic chanting - especially on rainbow laces day.

Plus, and I’m basing this on nothing other than my gut feeling, but I’d say the poor community is a lot less vocal than the gay community when it comes to these issues, which is important too.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

I’m not sure that there has been no recognition of the distasteful “feed the scousers” songs sung by away fans. I’ve read quite a few articles on that subject over the years where writers condemn fans who sing it, though I’ll concede it’s not quite the same kind of “campaign” as rainbow laces.

Perhaps in some corners, tackling homophobia may feel like a “quicker win” as it’s largely behavioural rather than tackling the structural aspects that have seen food banks and poverty rise. In any case, I don’t think it’s particularly strange that the coverage of that is disproportionately less than the coverage of homophobic chanting - especially on rainbow laces day.

Plus, and I’m basing this on nothing other than my gut feeling, but I’d say the poor community is a lot less vocal than the gay community when it comes to these issues, which is important too.

Trying to enforce speech controls does not solve issues, but merely makes the subject more bitter. Banter is not always appreciated, but it is all part of the rough and tumble of life.

 

[PhilEFC]

I’m not sure that there has been no recognition of the distasteful “feed the scousers” songs sung by away fans. I’ve read quite a few articles on that subject over the years where writers condemn fans who sing it, though I’ll concede it’s not quite the same kind of “campaign” as rainbow laces.

Perhaps in some corners, tackling homophobia may feel like a “quicker win” as it’s largely behavioural rather than tackling the structural aspects that have seen food banks and poverty rise. In any case, I don’t think it’s particularly strange that the coverage of that is disproportionately less than the coverage of homophobic chanting - especially on rainbow laces day.

Plus, and I’m basing this on nothing other than my gut feeling, but I’d say the poor community is a lot less vocal than the gay community when it comes to these issues, which is important too.

There has been a lack of recognition in regards to this incident. None of them reporters mention it once. So as far as I can see, the feed the scousers is accepted.

 

[Lawrence]

Its just another way of gagging the perceived working class. Call each other scouse b or wooly back b that is fine or implying people from this area are skint and cant feed their families or find work is fine! However you dare to mention a minority in a negative or perceived negative slant and the fan base is a disgrace. The demonetisation started at Heysel and has never stopped.

 

[MikeH72]

 

[Dooguk]

Can we sue Harry Enfield? I could do with a couple of bob for Crimbo.

 

[Winslow89]

I thought the way Souness put the LGBT+ situation was pretty accurate. Not one homosexual football player in the prem and yet the way things are statistically in society, there’s almost a guarantee that players are hiding this part of themselves - even fans.

The reality when it comes to football is that in many ways, we’re a reflection of the past when it comes to the perceived mentality of our demographic. There’s no smoke without fire, and some of the games I’ve been at this year we’re still hearing “f*ggot”, “q*eer” and even the odd N word. The media will use whatever they can to bring that to light, including any chant with the words “rent boys”, regardless of the real meaning.

 

[Death]

It’s homophobic to hear rent boy and think gay? Anyone reporting homophobia or spreading this are homophobes.

 

[Catfish Blues]

From

Rainbow Toffees Praise Club's Response To Report Of Homophobic Chant

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A spokesperson for the Rainbow Toffees said: “Words like those heard being chanted at the game against Chelsea are not ‘banter’, they are homophobic.

“There is no place for homophobia in football or society as a whole, and The Rainbow Toffees believe there should be a zero-tolerance approach to this behaviour. Football should be an inclusive, safe and welcoming space for all.

“The Rainbow Toffees fully support the Club and their clear determination to stand up to homophobia and stamp it out of the game.”


To be honest, I think that's an overreaction, but that's easily said when you're a white, middle aged, straight bloke, and I dare say I'd think differently if I'd been discriminated against or experienced [some sort of]phobia.

 

[TheWinslowBoy]

From

Rainbow Toffees Praise Club's Response To Report Of Homophobic Chant

Latest news from Everton Football Club

www.evertonfc.com

A spokesperson for the Rainbow Toffees said: “Words like those heard being chanted at the game against Chelsea are not ‘banter’, they are homophobic.

“There is no place for homophobia in football or society as a whole, and The Rainbow Toffees believe there should be a zero-tolerance approach to this behaviour. Football should be an inclusive, safe and welcoming space for all.

“The Rainbow Toffees fully support the Club and their clear determination to stand up to homophobia and stamp it out of the game.”


To be honest, I think that's an overreaction, but that's easily said when you're a white, middle aged, straight bloke, and I dare say I'd think differently if I'd been discriminated against or experienced [some sort of]phobia.

To be honest this should be the end of the argument. I hadn't really considered it homophobic but if Rainbow Toffees do then that's enough to convince me.

No other fan should feel be made to feel uncomfortable due to their sexuality, race or gender.

 

[Undisputed_blue]

No other fan should feel be made to feel uncomfortable due to their sexuality, race or gender.

Racism isn't just about the colour of your skin, it is also about where you come from.

I would argue that the insulting chants to the Everton fans were racist in nature and based on outdated stereotypical images of the Thatcher years. The Chelsea fans can't have it both ways.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Racism isn't just about the colour of your skin, it is also about where you come from.

I would argue that the insulting chants to the Everton fans were racist in nature and based on outdated stereotypical images of the Thatcher years. The Chelsea fans can't have it both ways.

Then report the chants to Chelsea

 

[Undisputed_blue]

Then report the chants to Chelsea

Difficult as I'm in London.