Everton confirm rejecting 28M for both Fellaini and baines

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Reading the guardian article seems like this is out of bobbys hands an ken****e is making the decision on what bid to accept. Surely this should be the managers decision.

Didnt kenwright say in bobbys press conference he would back him with money an let him control incomings/outgoings........this is starting to smell like another kenwright stitch up job.
 
Moyes will purposely bid an amount he knows Kenwright will accept at the last minute. That way he'll truly have the last laugh in the whole scenario.
 
This is all beginning to stink of a carve up between Moyes and Kenwright. Last minute sale suits Kenwright down to the ground. And Moyes' gets his summer targets and pulls the rug from underneath his successor who cant act in the transfer window.
 

Dell Boy said:
I'm at a point now where any deal to that cock Moyes will stick in my throat.

If he'd have come in and offered £45m back in early July then okay there's something to talk about. Taking away the emotion I can see some logic in accepting that level of cash for an ageing left back and a 1 in 4 midfielder. With a new manager and a new style of play I can accept if Martinez wants to amend the driving force of all out attacks away from left back. Likewise perhaps Fellaini has been so frustrating at times it is unreal.

But the way Moyes and United have gone about this - after all the bollocks about Hughes and Lescott just takes the p*ss.

The way I feel now I'd love it if teams other than United (ideally foreign) came in for the two OR Kenwright came out and said definitively that he backs Martinez and that Baines is not for sale at any price and Fellaini is £30m or f*** off.

An aside from that is whether Fellaini's buy-out clause kicks in again in January and next summer again?
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The way Man Utd have gone about this is to purposely unsettle the players. It's all tactics, start speculation around the early summer, drop an insulting bid to make it official that they're interested, spout some bad journalism and get it printed to cause unrest leading up to the final
Few days, players minds will be wrecked not knowing what to do, then an offer comes over the phone on Monday which BK thinks will never come about again so he accepts.

In other words, what Utd have done is harass harass harass
 
stefanefc said:
This has last day written all over it.

I just hope when it all goes pear shaped that the fans turn on Kenwright.

Awful position for Martinez to find himself in.
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Last line is spot on mate. Moyes had 11 year's of seeing how the **** hit the fan but then again 70k a week wedge kept him accepting it and saying what a great board he worked with. Martinez is young, is at a ****ing massive club compared to Wigan, a club where we expect him to improve us beyond Moyes achievements ( win a trophy and get us in the CL according to Bill ) and his first window is turning into a ****ing circus. Im a bit concerned about his comments regarding leaving it to Kenwright to sort out ( in one of the links ) but his job is hard enough to satisfy us without all this **** going on.
 
I'm starting to think the clubs know now what is happening and
so do the players, the paperwork will be getting sorted over the weekend and the announcement will be made on Monday.
 
davek said:
This is all beginning to stink of a carve up between Moyes and Kenwright. Last minute sale suits Kenwright down to the ground. And Moyes' gets his summer targets and pulls the rug from underneath his successor who cant act in the transfer window.
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Agreed and it will have taken only 2 months to undermine our new manager - a record for Kenwright!
 

njligernj said:
I'd be happy to follow the example if we had 100m+ per year to spend on wages. Part of the reason they can afford to sell those players (Arsenal especially) is they spend an absolute fortune on wages to lock up some of the best young talent around. We simply don't have the talent right now (despite an improving academy) to replace those players.

As any Arsenal fan will tell you ... they don't buy players (an exaggeration but they do turn a profit most years). They are sustaining themselves not by sell to buy but sell and replace with youth. We simply cannot afford the wages they pay so we can't follow their model.
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I think it's a bit of both. I've found a list of their academy graduates who have gone on to be internationals. It includes:

Bendtner, Adams, Bentley, Bothroyd, Ashley Cole, Andy Cole, Gibbs, Keown, Merson, Parlour, Thomas, Wilshere, Frimpong, Szczesny, Dickov, Traore, Fabregas, Larsson, Djourou and Hoyte.

I think only Ashley Cole and Fabregas went for big money. They seem to have sold a lot of their youth products for little or no fee:

Djourou £660k, Coquelin £176k, Bartley £1.1m, Lansbury £1.1m, Bendtner Free, Watt Free, Emmanuel-Thomas £1.1m, Cruise Free, Bentley Free

They trade quite well though:

Nasri £14m> £24.2m
Adebayor £8.8m> £25.5m
Song £3.5m> £16.7m
Van Persie £3.9m> £27m
Toure £162k> £16.4m
Vieira £4.7m> £17.6m
Anelka £660k> £30.8m
Overmars £6.6m> £35.2m
Petit £3.3m> £13.2m
Henry £14.1m> £21.1m
 
MickM86 said:
Reading that guardian article tells me Martínez has resigned to losing them. It sounds like he's lost the battle
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Well to be fair, the club has turned down 3 bids now - £12m for Baines, £28m for the pair and £36m/£38m for the pair.

They're not exactly rolling over, you have to give them that, at least up to now.
 

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