Once cuco comes in we can turn our attention to the bigger names like Gestede, Rooney, Jakupovic, Michael Dawson and Whabi Khazri
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Verbal Kint
Player Valuation: £35m
It's simple really if we are to attract the big players we will have to pay higher wages than the six clubs ahead of us, because they all have a bigger profile than us, double edged sword really because we will only attract the money grabbers if that is the case
Breaking the monopoly is going to be really difficult.
Breaking the monopoly is going to be really difficult.
We perennially disappoint with faux bids, being outbid by rivals and generally being unwilling to cough up. But that's what we are - a 2nd rate club in comparison to our rivals in terms of who we try to buy and what we'll pay them. One way to compete though is to get some more (established) players in. We finished the season with barely 13-14 recognised first team players - 3-4 out on loan and a lot of injuries - but hell, let's be honest that's nothing new.
2 keepers (neither of whom are any good, one injured)
Coleman (inj), Jags (may go this summer), Williams (over 30), RFM (ordinary to say the least, injured), Baines (over 30)
Barry (nearer to 40), Schneids, Gueye, Macca and Besic (both injured), Davies (youth)
Barkley (wants out), Kev, Valencia (loan), Lennon (unavailable), Bolasie (injured)
Lukaku and the useless Kone (leaving)
DCL and Lookman (young lads bought for a snip) and Holgate..
after this: kids and players deemed not good enough (Niasse, Clev, Geri, McGeady - hard to disagree about at least 3 of these).
Think this shows what a good job RK did to get us to 7th (and Europe, fortunately because of the rules).
2 keepers (neither of whom are any good, one injured)
Coleman (inj), Jags (may go this summer), Williams (over 30), RFM (ordinary to say the least, injured), Baines (over 30)
Barry (nearer to 40), Schneids, Gueye, Macca and Besic (both injured), Davies (youth)
Barkley (wants out), Kev, Valencia (loan), Lennon (unavailable), Bolasie (injured)
Lukaku and the useless Kone (leaving)
DCL and Lookman (young lads bought for a snip) and Holgate..
after this: kids and players deemed not good enough (Niasse, Clev, Geri, McGeady - hard to disagree about at least 3 of these).
Think this shows what a good job RK did to get us to 7th (and Europe, fortunately because of the rules).
Who's_up_for_cumpkins?
Player Valuation: £15m
Not in the slightest. I'd go further to suggest that I'm disappointed farhad has not completely cleaned the club out by now. Billy bulls***er included.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
I don't buy the excuse that there aren't enough players out there who would both want to join Everton and offer an improvement on what we already have. That should be eminently possible in a global market for a side that finished 7th, and regardless of points differentials, miles off the clubs in front of us.
Clearly under the new regime we have struggled to date in attracting players deemed sufficiently good enough, and worse still struggle badly operating in the continental market. Walsh must address these issues now, backed to the maximum extent by Moshiri, not just financially but logistically.
Whilst I was prepared to withhold judgement for the first two windows, it is abundantly clear that we will see the level of intent, and willingness to back it up / ability to execute, or otherwise, this summer. We need to push the limits with wage offers to get some signings over the line. Others should arrive as the result of good scouting and detailed analysis.
The coming weeks will be fascinating, things should really start to get going by the middle of June if we are serious. Moshiri has his reputation on the line here, and crying to Jim White on deadline day about how crazy the market is will not cut it this time. They know what they are dealing with, and they know what it takes.
Clearly under the new regime we have struggled to date in attracting players deemed sufficiently good enough, and worse still struggle badly operating in the continental market. Walsh must address these issues now, backed to the maximum extent by Moshiri, not just financially but logistically.
Whilst I was prepared to withhold judgement for the first two windows, it is abundantly clear that we will see the level of intent, and willingness to back it up / ability to execute, or otherwise, this summer. We need to push the limits with wage offers to get some signings over the line. Others should arrive as the result of good scouting and detailed analysis.
The coming weeks will be fascinating, things should really start to get going by the middle of June if we are serious. Moshiri has his reputation on the line here, and crying to Jim White on deadline day about how crazy the market is will not cut it this time. They know what they are dealing with, and they know what it takes.
Cracking post by the OP.
I don't see anything changing because the club will not risk moving to the next level with speed.
I feel very lucky to have seen and been part of a 80,s side that lifted glittering trophies and paraded winners medals around Goodison park.
The truth is that the people who run the club don't want it enough as the fans when it comes to actions and speed.
I don't see anything changing because the club will not risk moving to the next level with speed.
I feel very lucky to have seen and been part of a 80,s side that lifted glittering trophies and paraded winners medals around Goodison park.
The truth is that the people who run the club don't want it enough as the fans when it comes to actions and speed.
everton2004
Player Valuation: £35m
As this is clearly turning into a "Moshiri is a fraud isn't he lads?" thread, what is it's purpose? There's already a Moshiri thread ripe for bedwetting.
Blue Horse
Player Valuation: £500k
Well if BK said he'd promised transfer funds, it must be true. Hope its ring fenced.
AdaBrummieblue
Player Valuation: £20m
We're not gonna know anything until this transfer window wraps up. If, at the end of it, we've done poor business again or had to sell to buy then perhaps we can start pointing some fingers. Perhaps then it will be a "false dawn". Right now, as others have mentioned, we've paid a fortune for a gaffer who I respect and think will be awesome for us, and are closer to a new stadium than ever before. There's a lot that needs fixing at our club but as the old cliche goes, "Rome wasn't built in a day".
Ronald has said that he expects to start this season with "HIS team". I doubt he'd stand for any BS from the board. I believe he's been promised money to rebuild and I can't see them lying to his face about that. If they have then we'll need a new manager pretty soon too.
Hold yer horses lads. There's a few months to go yet. And give it a rest with all the Fifa signings nonsense ffs. The national rags are paid to make shizz up and some of you are guilty of falling for every single "story". Ron and Walsh have their targets. Time will tell.
Ronald has said that he expects to start this season with "HIS team". I doubt he'd stand for any BS from the board. I believe he's been promised money to rebuild and I can't see them lying to his face about that. If they have then we'll need a new manager pretty soon too.
Hold yer horses lads. There's a few months to go yet. And give it a rest with all the Fifa signings nonsense ffs. The national rags are paid to make shizz up and some of you are guilty of falling for every single "story". Ron and Walsh have their targets. Time will tell.
AdaBrummieblue
Player Valuation: £20m
We're not gonna know anything until this transfer window wraps up. If, at the end of it, we've done poor business again or had to sell to buy then perhaps we can start pointing some fingers. Perhaps then it will be a "false dawn". Right now, as others have mentioned, we've paid a fortune for a gaffer who I respect and think will be awesome for us, and are closer to a new stadium than ever before. There's a lot that needs fixing at our club but as the old cliche goes, "Rome wasn't built in a day".
Ronald has said that he expects to start this season with "HIS team". I doubt he'd stand for any BS from the board. I believe he's been promised money to rebuild and I can't see them lying to his face about that. If they have then we'll need a new manager pretty soon too.
Hold yer horses lads. There's a few months to go yet. And give it a rest with all the Fifa signings nonsense ffs. The national rags are paid to make shizz up and some of you are guilty of falling for every single "story". Ron and Walsh have their targets. Time will tell.
Ronald has said that he expects to start this season with "HIS team". I doubt he'd stand for any BS from the board. I believe he's been promised money to rebuild and I can't see them lying to his face about that. If they have then we'll need a new manager pretty soon too.
Hold yer horses lads. There's a few months to go yet. And give it a rest with all the Fifa signings nonsense ffs. The national rags are paid to make shizz up and some of you are guilty of falling for every single "story". Ron and Walsh have their targets. Time will tell.
Bullet
Player Valuation: £10m
I was going to wait until after the window closed to post here but tonight seems the right time. My theory of the warchest being clever marketing is looking pretty solid unfortunately. I was certainly wrong about the order in which things would happen but I didn't count on that clever Chinese facility enabling us the spend the Lukaku money before it arrived.
Overall I think the window's been pretty good and we'll very likely sign Sigy and a couple of others while selling Barks etc leaving us with a net spend that's positive but nothing suggestive of having a sugar daddy owner because we clearly don't have one. We have a clever investor who's facilitated our rise in fortune and may well deliver a new stadium though he certainly won't pay for it anymore than he'll pay for Sigy.
City and Chelsea saw massive net investment initially to bridge the gap so how far our more modest model can take us remains to be seen. Walsh will have to perform highly and if he does and we get some luck who knows in the long term?
In the short term I predict RK, after a difficult early part of the campaign, will deliver on his usual reliable league performance and see us finish 6-8 at the end of the 17/18 season and 5-8 the season after before leaving.
Overall I think the window's been pretty good and we'll very likely sign Sigy and a couple of others while selling Barks etc leaving us with a net spend that's positive but nothing suggestive of having a sugar daddy owner because we clearly don't have one. We have a clever investor who's facilitated our rise in fortune and may well deliver a new stadium though he certainly won't pay for it anymore than he'll pay for Sigy.
City and Chelsea saw massive net investment initially to bridge the gap so how far our more modest model can take us remains to be seen. Walsh will have to perform highly and if he does and we get some luck who knows in the long term?
In the short term I predict RK, after a difficult early part of the campaign, will deliver on his usual reliable league performance and see us finish 6-8 at the end of the 17/18 season and 5-8 the season after before leaving.
TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
Why is it the right time though? It all looked good while Lukaku was still here as we had a massive net spend and now we've sold him and not brought anyone in, it doesn't look good.
If at the end of the window we are in a similar position to now then your post will be valid and well predicted in my opinion. However, if we sign Sigurdsson for £45m, say buy someone else for £25m, sell Barkley for £25m. Your OP said:
Our official net spend for summer 2016 was -£1.19m.
Our official net spend for January 2017 was £19.4m.
So if my scenario happens we would have had a net spend in his time here of close to £65m. I'd be pretty happy with that in 'net spend' terms, but it'd still be a side issue because we probably wouldn't have replaced our 25 goal a season a striker which is way more important for me than judging us on net spend.
Bullet
Player Valuation: £10m
I think it the right time given the manager's publicly expressed dose of realism regarding the spending thus far. My point was that the warchest was more marketing than reality and RK echoed that by pointing out despite the media proclaiming Everton's spending power we've actually spent very little net thus far.
Lived in Scotland for 10 years now for work commitments and I have never been able to buy an Everton top up here in a shop. All the top 6 clubs are easily available. Also Newcastle.
Just a little thing that we could improve on as a club. Probably more chance to get a everton top in Tanzania than Glasgow at present.
Just a little thing that we could improve on as a club. Probably more chance to get a everton top in Tanzania than Glasgow at present.
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