Match Thread Everton 0-1 Arsenal Sat 20th December @ 20:00

[GrandOldTeam]

Every interview I've seen, every pundit, every former player has said that's a penalty 100% so why wasn't it given. Makes you wonder.

Didn't Moyes shrug it off?

 

[PeterGet]

My take (whatever it’s worth):

- I think we deserved a draw, which we were clearly playing for. Yes we could have had a penalty, but they hit the post twice! We made stupid decisions and our squad is either injured or unfit or in Africa. We should have been destroyed and would have been by City… Maybe the defence was better than we think?

- The new signings are clearly not ready, which is probably the reason Moyes isn’t playing them

- League has been kind. We’re lucky to be still be in 10th

- Everton have an ingrained cultural issue with strikers. DCL is apparently Lionel Messi at Leeds and looked like a donkey for us. I don’t blames Moyes, but why is this?

I suspect The Athletic are not quickly picking up the phone to sign me up

 

[GrandOldTeam]

We were well off it last night.

Of course, Arsenal are a great team. We were missing some big players. If Arsenal had played well and battered us 4-0 I'd have shrugged and said that's football. They're just a better team.

But last night was disappointing because Arsenal didn't turn up, and we were passive all over. I mean, this tells its own story:



Everton never for one moment believed we'd get a result last night and it showed.

Arsenal were gifted a goal and didn't need to get out of first gear.

 

[Miked1e]

Really need to be putting more pressure on the officials…. Whether that comes from the players, the manager or the club in general.

Look at the arse players surrounding the ref for the first VAR call before their pen… doesn’t happen but then get a decision later on.

Same with the RS… come out call it and guess what, the next decision you get it.

We should have been all over it for that Barry foul. Soft but it is a penalty. One which we generally don’t get but the scab 6 do.

But in general we just didn’t get amongst them last night…. Get a foot in, give a little kick. They clearly don’t like it when that happens so should bt doing it more.

Anyway, focus on towards a better run of games through now to end Jan. But still gonna miss some big players.

Let’s hope we have a CF and RB lined up for 1st Jan!

 

[Wat Tyler]

Wtf was JOB doing for their pen

 

[Cameron Manning]

Without Dewsbury Hall and Ndiaye we looked toothless, the penalty for Arsenal was froma piece of absolute clown shoes defending from O'Brien, why on earth a 6ft 6in.player thinks he needs to challenge with his arms above his head is beyond reason. The Barry and Saliba challenge was a blatant penalty , but, having said that,we deserved nothing from the game.

Dibling showed very little when he came on, but, I'd still like to see him given 90 minutes against Burnley, Mc'Neil is really struggling and is far too left footed to play right wing, Alcaraz hardly covered himself in glory either, if Rohl is fit I'd like to see him start as the 10 against Burnley.

All in all, we came up against a very good team, had a lot of our better players unavailable and Grealish looked as if he was only playing because of how few creative options we had available, had Dewsbury Hall and Ndiaye been available I don't think Grealish would have played, he was obviously carrying an injury.

You thought Grealish was carrying an obvious injury— he’s been playing like he did yesterday for the last ten games!

 

[NathDogg]

Can’t take Illy and KDH out and not expect a drop in levels, but there’s no excuse to pick McNeil, he’s done.

Shame that we never got going because I thought arsenal were poor and a result was possible - shame the players and manager didn’t feel that way.

Didn’t see our “pen” and haven’t watched it again, but nothing with the prem and var surprises me anymore, it’s still match fixing.

Really hope Arsenal bottle the league again now, disgusting chanting and fanbase, absolute scum.

 

[davek]

Arsenal had complete control of the middle of the pitch and looked surprised to have it. It doesn't happen if we have KDH further back there or even Gueye playing. But what did surprise me was how little bite we had with Garner and Iroegbunam in there who I'd have bet would be getting very close to Arsenal players all night - and btw I cant see what the minor fuss over Iroegbunam was post match either.

Second half it was a pisstake. They had all the time in the world to get the ball wide to Saka and Trossard. The other probem looked to be McNeill and Alcaraz not helping out too much.

 

[evertony]

We pass it backwards far too much too - the slowest team in the Prem by far....

 

[evertony]

It was embarrassing. They played around us like we were a punch drunk loser getting palmed off by a champion.

We were the Jake Paul, they were the Anthony Joshua

 

[Miked1e]

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Whilst I completely agree, it’s difficult when there is very little movement in front of you.

 

[Bwana]

He doesn’t even bother to sharpen the knives anymore…

 

[maccavennie]

We were well off it last night.

Of course, Arsenal are a great team. We were missing some big players. If Arsenal had played well and battered us 4-0 I'd have shrugged and said that's football. They're just a better team.

But last night was disappointing because Arsenal didn't turn up, and we were passive all over. I mean, this tells its own story:



Everton never for one moment believed we'd get a result last night and it showed.

Arsenal were gifted a goal and didn't need to get out of first gear.

It was as close to a knife to a gunfight performance as you could wish to see.

 

[evertony]

I’m not disputing that. If we were 1-0 up we’d have 10 men behind the ball. We were 1-0 down and looked like we were holding on for dear life.

It's because we were.

Massive inferiority complex....which emanates from one source.

I know they are title challengers, but our lack of belief against anyone in the top portion of the league is, and always has been pathetic under this particular manager. Until we rid ourselves of the inferiority complex we won't move on. A massive change in culture all across the Club needs to be escalated. At some point you have to say "sod this, it's just 11 v 11 and we're going to have a go" rather than continuously hold out to soak up pressure and hope to scab one on the break.

 

[Eggs]

Wtf was JOB doing for their pen

….liked Moyes post-match comment on that, he seemed as peed off as the fans.