Match Thread Everton 0-0 Brentford, Saturday 23rd November, 3pm

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We keep on finding new ways to disappoint. God only knows what that bald plum told the players at half time?! This has reached Martinez levels of insanity from Dyche - doing the same thing over and over again isn’t working.
Hey Dwight, you’ve banged the last 4 corners you’ve taken high so it drops for catching practice, so do it a fifth time - that’ll surprise the keeper!
FFS
 

If they plan to invest in January, I think it’s a no brainer to get rid so the new manager can get his own players. Not sure who will be available in Jan though.

Praying Broja/Chermiti can get fit and do a better job than the other two.
You've got the key point right there: if they do want to make a change, and know who they want, can they get him in Jan or do they wait til the summer. No one is coming in on a 6 month gig, so TFG have a big decision to make.

As for Broja and Chermiti, who knows. Broja is hardly a prolific No9 and Chermiti is a kid whose barely ever kicked a ball in the "toughest league in the world". How on earth can we have 4 center forwards on the books and not a single one of them you'd wager will get half a dozen goals in a season.
 
We keep on finding new ways to disappoint. God only knows what that bald plum told the players at half time?! This has reached Martinez levels of insanity from Dyche - doing the same thing over and over again isn’t working.
Hey Dwight, you’ve banged the last 4 corners you’ve taken high so it drops for catching practice, so do it a fifth time - that’ll surprise the keeper!
FFS
The man has done nothing but hoofball for ten years. Why would anyone be surprised?!?

We kick off, it goes back to JP and he lumps it up the field. We get a free kick, it gets booted in the box. We get a corner, it gets booted in the box. Sometimes we beat the first man, sometimes we don't. ZERO invention whatsoever from a guy who has never done anything different as a coach in a decade, and never will.
 
At the match today and another tough watch. Dyche sets the team up like a manager new in a job setting a team up defensively. That is phase one. We have been in phase one for the last 2 years. We have a better team now but a manager who has a tendency to stifle talent. We may not get beat by many but we won’t win many either. Even if it means seeing the season out better times are ahead I believe.
 

The first thirty minutes were positive, however the second half atmosphere was flat because the performance from those on the pitch was, once again, tepid.

As you said, the consensus was that we were not going to score, and I think that was fair: the passing was slow and sideways; the crosses lacked impetus.

Our football is far too safe. A decent side would have buried Brentford in the first half, who I think would have rolled over and proverbially had their tummies rubbed.

Dyche is nothing but an egotistical liar, who is unable to accept any form of responsibility for the today or the wider situation.

You know there's a fundamental problem when you are well on top and every man and his dog knows that it doesn't matter as you can't score.

Was chatting with my brother as I always do during the game - he's basically a stat nerd as he uses them for his articles. He commented that pretty much we had lots of shots first half but all at a very low xpg, almost padding stats really.

We also do a Dyche lottery of who he will takes off and what minute, the mean atm is 70-75 mins and anyone besides McNeil.

Soon as the sending off happened we no longer could play counter attack or had space and he commented that it's painfully obvious just how little time if any we spend in training on offensive drills, we literally have no idea how to create space or pull players out of position.
Funny thing is a Dyche playing a Dyche with a far superior team could almost guarantee a draw every game due to this
 
At the match today and another tough watch. Dyche sets the team up like a manager new in a job setting a team up defensively. That is phase one. We have been in phase one for the last 2 years. We have a better team now but a manager who has a tendency to stifle talent. We may not get beat by many but we won’t win many either. Even if it means seeing the season out better times are ahead I believe.

You can almost see visibly by the game Ndiaye becoming less and less confident or sure of trying stuff. Lindstrom also.
 
I'm not sleepwalking, and neither is the majority of the fanbase, the Dyche apologists who keep claiming he'll keep us up whilst also excusing every poor result/performance are the ones I am accusing of sleepwalking into relegation. Obviously the squad isn't of the highest quality but it should be able to see out a 2-0 lead in the 87th minute, beat a winless Southampton, create any scoring chances against a pointless away from home Brentford who have 10 men on the pitch. You can argue in isolation that these instances come down to the squad alone but when it becomes a regular occurrence you have to consider that the way they are prepped for matches, the way they are coached and their physical and mental conditioning may be suspect. That's the job of the coaching staff. Maybe it is you who should open their eyes.

My take so far, we've played some trans who've looked so bad that a decent dude would hd e buried them by thirty minutes, we ourselves though are they bad by the end of the game the opponent looks the confident one - last two weeks no better example than that.

Everton are literally the fat girl at 2 am existing solely to boost the confidence of the guy who strikes out all night...
 
You can almost see visibly by the game Ndiaye becoming less and less confident or sure of trying stuff. Lindstrom also.
If I was Ndaiye I'd have a transfer request on the desk of whoever is running the club on January 1st if Dyche is still here. Clearly our best player, lightyears ahead of the rest, could easily be dancing around defences in a City or Barca shirt as a big money signing, and here he is, slumming it in some going-nowhere-but-down team under a manager who has zero coaching ability, plays you out of position, just wants hoofball, and will sub you if dare to show some individualistic attacking flare. He must be wondering why on earth he's swapped Sheffield Marseille for this.
 

At the match today and another tough watch. Dyche sets the team up like a manager new in a job setting a team up defensively. That is phase one. We have been in phase one for the last 2 years. We have a better team now but a manager who has a tendency to stifle talent. We may not get beat by many but we won’t win many either. Even if it means seeing the season out better times are ahead I believe.
What a horrible dose of reality. Over a century of football at one of the most iconic grounds in the country for one of the old "big clubs", with all the history attached etc in a year where every single home game should be a celebration of that and we should be going out with the attacking NSNO attitude this club is supposed to represent, and we're basically just hoping to be 17th, "happy" to endure another 6 months of soulless, negative, 0-0 aspiring hoofball because all anyone cares about is BMD. Sad times.
 
If I was Ndaiye I'd have a transfer request on the desk of whoever is running the club on January 1st if Dyche is still here. Clearly our best player, lightyears ahead of the rest, could easily be dancing around defences in a City or Barca shirt as a big money signing, and here he is, slumming it in some going-nowhere-but-down team under a manager who has zero coaching ability, plays you out of position, just wants hoofball, and will sub you if dare to show some individualistic attacking flare. He must be wondering why on earth he's swapped Sheffield Marseille for this.

Funny thing is Sheff Utd actually made him the focal point in their promotion season.

I'm not sure he's good enough for the likes of city, but good god he's better than Dycheball...
 
Funny thing is Sheff Utd actually made him the focal point in their promotion season.

I'm not sure he's good enough for the likes of city, but good god he's better than Dycheball...
Yeah maybe a bit of an exaggeration on my part there, but he'd certainly not look out of place at a top 6/top 7 level side or a number quality sides around Europe. If we were under financial pressure to sell players in January, he would be one of few there would be a queue for.
 
Tangerines and Toffees stumbling along to nowhere together. Can't beat a Brentford team at home against 10 men. That's bad. And there we go finding even a point near impossible to achieve. That goalie you sent us has been good at times, quality in a pen shootout recently, but then a liability. Such is football. Off to the Farmers for a pick me up now
 

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