peteblue
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Everyone is entitled to change an opinion......Even you .......
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Everyone is entitled to change an opinion......Even you .......
The Esk
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Ramble? Rhetoric? Arrogance? EU is God?
Not from me pal. Those who support Brexit paint a land of milk and honey where the UK strides the world performing in a manner denied us by our EU membership.
All I've done is point out that we leave the single market with no alternative agreed, we have to renegotiate our WTO terms ex EU, our PM espoused views just 6 months ago entirely contrary to her current position, and albeit the 6th largest economy in the world, we are a less attractive trading partner than the EU for the rest of the world and that will be reflected in new terms going forward.
I've also mentioned our structural problems with manufacturing capacity constraints which limit our ability to manufacture and export more, plus the impact of a weaker currency on our purchasing ability, the impact of higher input prices, and the effect of a depreciating currency on future foreign investment.
All waffle and ramble?
peteblue
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Yet still won't say WHY the EU would want to be belligerent to us at the WTO........
Armel
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For this you should read some French newspapers or such. The U.K. Is antagonizing a lot of people. Another reason is attempted cherry picking. How longer the uncertainty last the better.
So have a GE and the Tory May government get in with a bigger majority?
The EU being nasty with us shock horror story by the time we exit under article 50 the french government will be changing
The Esk
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No mate, let the Government of the day have some political courage, realise the mess we are in and call an end to this Article 50 nonsense and get down to some serious negotiations.
Armel
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No they won't mate. Every candidate in the coming elections says similar things, except the unelectable ones. One of the many quotes, you can find loads of similar ones and not only French ones.
Le "Brexit" doit conduire la France à attirer davantage d'investissements, les Britanniques devant assumer les conséquences de leur choix, a déclaré mardi François Hollande.
Le président français s'exprimait lors d'un déplacement sur le site FedEx de Roissy-en-France, après l'annonce par le groupe américain d'un investissement de 1,4 milliard d'euros.
"Dans un contexte que chacun connaît, avec la décision des Britanniques de quitter l'Union européenne, ça doit nous conduire encore davantage à attirer des investissements, à susciter une attractivité pour le territoire français", a dit François Hollande.
"Il ne s'agit pas de vouloir enlever ce que les Britanniques ont, mais dès lors qu'ils ont fait ce choix, ils doivent en assumer les conséquences et nous, la France, nous devons être l'accès au marché européen", a-t-il ajouté.
Depuis le vote en juin des Britanniques pour la sortie de leur pays de l'Union européenne, plusieurs de leurs voisins tentent d'attirer les investisseurs craignant les conséquences de ce choix, au premier rang desquels la perte de l'accès au marché unique européen et du "passeport" européen pour les établissements financiers.
Pienaar's gloves
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My argument won the brexit vote yours lost
I accept it you don't
Its not down to us so why get personal???????????
Mate your "argument" isn't an argument.
I accept the vote (for the fifth time).
The Esk
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Leaked recording shows Theresa May is 'ignoring her own warnings' on Brexit
She said: “If we were not in Europe, I think there would be firms and companies who would be looking to say: do they need to develop a mainland Europe presence rather than a UK presence? So I think there are definite benefits for us in economic terms.”
She said: “If we were not in Europe, I think there would be firms and companies who would be looking to say: do they need to develop a mainland Europe presence rather than a UK presence? So I think there are definite benefits for us in economic terms.”
Headline should be "CAREER POLITICIAN IN BEING A CAREER POLITICIAN SHOCKER".
Everyone with half a brain knew that would be the case, and her pretending everything is rosy is a pure nonsense aimed at advancing her own career.
orchard
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Mate, you're wasting your time, you have enough evidence to realise that both pete and joey reject the classic-liberal tenet of reasoned open debate. It's about faith and self-sacrifice to a National cause. To be fair, it's occurring on both sides, but this is the primary reason for the rise of irrational popularity-seeking characters like Trump.
I believe it's akin to what Spengler called 'Caesarism'.
I believe it's akin to what Spengler called 'Caesarism'.
Pienaar's gloves
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Yeah I think you're right, and I'm not going to teach them all about it now!
orchard
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Unfortunately, reason will be a casualty, from both sides, as the corollary is unreasoned assertion in politics as well as society. We can see that quite vividly in May(hem), for example.
peteblue
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There are a lot of elections coming up in Europe over the next year or so and Brit bashing always goes down well in France. Inevitably though, common sense gets applied applied once the political posturing is over. All 27 countries are now following the EU mantra of 'no cherry picking' and 'the four freedoms' so as to appear united, but as yesterday's article from Sweden showed the mood within certain countries is one of pragmatism to do a good trade deal.....it will be interesting to see how words change over time.......
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