Current Affairs EU In or Out
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peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
But I did answer his question......
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I can live with that......
The Esk
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No you have not. If you have please copy it
I'd rather not watch a 60 minute program to get a snippet. Couldn't you tell me what you think the stresses are? Do you have any in your own community?
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Use the example I used earlier with Mercosur. The EU deal has taken decades to try and agree because of the 28 country agreement issue. As the UK alone, we would already have done something by now with more favourable tariffs......we are hindered not by where we can go but the in country price of our goods and services due to the import duties currently in place within the export territories and as applied by the EU. If the tariffs are too high it hinders our competitiveness on price. A free trade deal would eliminate this barrier to entry.......
Reply 9542 btw......
The Esk
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So the EU does hinder global trade in your opinion? (having just said earlier it doesn't). Why then has it not hindered Germany's performance?
Additionally you do realise that if we got to WTO terms anywhere in the world, that the EU has to agree to that, and the "28 country agreement issue" would still apply. That being the case what are the benefits again of leaving the EU?
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
So I did answer the question then....so now how about answering mine...why do you believe that the German education system is better than ours ?.....Oh and I answered the previous German question myself.....
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
The WTO is a two edged sword. We are a member of the WTO, if the EU wishes to veto any deal we do, we can reciprocate with theirs as they will need a new agreement due to the changing shape, size and offerings from the EU.......
Pienaar's gloves
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Just pointing out to nobody in particular...
If you have to change your argument constantly to justify your viewpoint, then it might be worth reassessing your view.
Following one belief fundamentally when you can't justify it isn't a strength (although it is often treated as such).
If you have to change your argument constantly to justify your viewpoint, then it might be worth reassessing your view.
Following one belief fundamentally when you can't justify it isn't a strength (although it is often treated as such).
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Fine words, which I'm sure the Esk will note for the future.......
As an aside, I live in Southwark, which is the 9th most densely populated ward in the country, and I believe officially classified as 'deprived'. The population of the borough is approximately 35% foreign, or roughly 3 times the population as a whole, with an almost 50/50 split in terms of ethnicity. That's a heck of a bubble
the stress on housing, the schools - the gp appointments - more so they felt sorry for the immigrants who gang masters in the farmers fields who claimed to pay a minimum wage but then offered barn like accommodation with high rent taken out fetching their pay down theoretically under the minimum wage !
also claiming that these jobs were sometimes advertised solely in the EU and not in the UK - as a UK citizen would you let your child work under those conditions Bruce?
The labour party have pointed this out as now do the Tories
This nonsense that UK teenagers would not do that sort of work annoys me 100% as in my day I chose a career in Horticulture on £9.35p when factory jobs were paying double or even treble, and yes I did field work manually in fields not machine planting etc even harder manual labour in the early 1970's
So when I hear a uk citizen would not do that work I take it with a pinch of salt everyone has to start at the bottom , or have we created a mindset of a generation of teenagers who get a degree and think they are to above themselves to do that work is so its needs changing quickly!
as some of them are either unemployed or working in bars, cafes etc etc etc!
I agree we have a major skill shortage in this country, but only an independant UK can change that around!
The other answer is NO it is not in my area as I live in a retirement area, and by the way I miss Liverpool people I have lived in three areas to better myself to gain promotions - I sympathise with the youth of today in the Job markets and the housing markets!
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The Esk
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you totally contradicted yourself, because your position is untenable, either the EU hinders global trade or it doesn't. If it doesn't why leave? It it does why does it not hinder Germany?
Re the education differences, the German system offers a much broader syllabus, much less testing and reliance upon exam results and league tables, plus there's no postcode lottery in the German system.
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