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While Germany is keen for a new Brexit deal, France, under Emmanuel Macron, is thought to be opposed to any new talks with the UK.



Daily Express stirring it or is this true???
 
While Germany is keen for a new Brexit deal, France, under Emmanuel Macron, is thought to be opposed to any new talks with the UK.



Daily Express stirring it or is this true???

Remember the "easiest trade deal in history" that the EU would be so needy to keep the UK market that they'd give away Single Market access with only two of the Four Freedoms?!

Of course Johnson complete capitulation underlined the opposite of the above belief. Must have come as a shock negotiations require give and take, who knew...

Anyway, the Express, are they right, they make no reference King speech. At the recent King’s Speech. Labour government will bring in a law by way of the Product Safety and Metrology Bill, allowing government ministers to follow European regulations as they’re brought in, without reference to Parliament.

So Brexit fantasies such as US trade deal in which Britain adopts US product and food standards is now dead.

And UK will not not go it alone as a “world-beating” standards-setter either, as the Brexiteers insisted. The wasteful duplication of standards, such as via UK Conformity Assessed will be the first victim of assisted dying.

And Brexiter whining about the plight of Northern Ireland will be hard to maintain, now that Scotland, England and Wales can quickly follow the law there, preventing divergence.

 
I think stuff like this will be the beginning of the end for the EU:


The principle of unanimity is part of the fabric of the EU, so something like this starts a rip that'll end in a tear.
Nah, you have it the wrong way around. The end of the EU will be brought on by allowing countries like Hungary in - and then having rules that make it almost impossible to rein in their anti-EU anti-rule of law governments.

Hungary should be stripped of all voting rights for as long as it continues to flout the rules it signed up to. As long as that won't happen, we're already on the slippery slope.
 
Nah, you have it the wrong way around. The end of the EU will be brought on by allowing countries like Hungary in - and then having rules that make it almost impossible to rein in their anti-EU anti-rule of law governments.

Hungary should be stripped of all voting rights for as long as it continues to flout the rules it signed up to. As long as that won't happen, we're already on the slippery slope.

There is a rule of law crisis in the EU. Apex courts in Germany, Poland, Hungary and Romania have all rejected the inherent supremacy of EU law.

Organisations like the EU can spread outwards. They can spread inwards with expanded jurisdiction and passing lots of new law. Attempting to do both stretches the elasticity of the organisation, which is why there is the crisis.

Attempting to accommodate disparate economies (those that have the Euro) and political/legal cultures in a one size fits all was always going to be very tough to accomplish.

The problem is exacerbated by the fact the solution is often seen as 'more Europe', a stock Verhofstadt phrase, instead of pause & reflection.
 
There is a rule of law crisis in the EU. Apex courts in Germany, Poland, Hungary and Romania have all rejected the inherent supremacy of EU law.

Organisations like the EU can spread outwards. They can spread inwards with expanded jurisdiction and passing lots of new law. Attempting to do both stretches the elasticity of the organisation, which is why there is the crisis.

Attempting to accommodate disparate economies (those that have the Euro) and political/legal cultures in a one size fits all was always going to be very tough to accomplish.

The problem is exacerbated by the fact the solution is often seen as 'more Europe', a stock Verhofstadt phrase, instead of pause & reflection.
It's deeper Europe that is needed. Expansion is a mug's game and was particularly beloved of the UK when they were members. In their minds, far better to dilute the EU than strengthen it.
 
There’s a very very very strong chance that the entire SPS regime will be ripped up in the coming year or two.

The millions upon millions spent on both physical and ICT infrastructure could be thrown in the bin. The impact would likely see the loss of hundreds of jobs through the civil service and local authorities if the the so called plans go ahead.

The risk model, that was introduced to identify SPS goods from certain countries and determine inspection is not fit for purpose, the ICT system used to make notifications is failing and literally falling apart at the seems.

The new government is likely to look at a Swiss style deal for such goods. Almost eliminating the needs for all this expensive infrastructure due to the impact it has having at the border.

I’m expecting more information around October but this is definitely on the cards
 
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