It's all about the waiting and seeing. I thought you of all people would get that?
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He only really turned up here after Kenshin did that amusing leaving thread.
You may not think the majority have not moved on. That's fine, as it i OK for me to say that the majority have moved on. The debate got pretty boring.
It will effect everyone. Death by a thousand cuts. We don't know yet.
Politicians liars. Well I never.
Short term there are problems. History will tell us f we have problems long term
If it goe tits up do you not see a party being elected on a re-join mandate? I do and it may be a way for Labour to get re-elected. We may have to join the euro and pay more money but if it happens it happens
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5-10 years?
Who? Is that your best?
Re-joining is not as simple as rocking up to the EU and saying 'let us back in'...
Without a positive case for re-joining, the EU, rightly, would treat us with sceptism. They aren't oblivious (as some seem to think) to UK politics and a mandate of 'I'll go to the EU to extract as much as possible' won't get us very far. Neither will 'oh this didn't work out well for us, we're sorry for all the trouble but we'll have the same as we had before thanks'.
We may want to consider renegotiating the deal, pushing for a softer Brexit - while still staying out (but it's unlikely that will satisfy the ERG even if it does meet the criteria for Brexit).
(Oh and you can't simultaneously occupy both orbits - either you want evidence and fact to substantiate claims and time to 'wait and see' or you don't. You can't flip flop between two opposing stances otherwise people will rightly mock you for it).
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Great, seems I'm not the only one who can't find them so that'd be really useful
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If we had to rejoin no doubt it would be under far less generous terms. But I do see them letting us rejoin.
If labour stood on a rejoin platform and got elected the Tory party would collapse into in fighting. So not a bad thing
As for your last point I have consistently said we have to wait 5-10 to evaluate if brexit has damaged the country. Id go for the 10 years because that is when a rejoin party might have a chance especially if the country is a lot worse off.
Think annoyed is taking it a bit too far ha
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Two posts clearly said as exaggerated tongue in cheek comments because you refused to say why you voted for Brexit, one of which is from a banned poster. Hardly huge nasty accusations. And 2 over 4 years when you say it's a regular occurrence is a bit weak...
So a post from 'kin @Tea_drinker one of this forum's legendary whoppers, and an obvs windup from Moomin?
Look hands up, I was wrong that you've never been called racist, but I have to Lol if that's your idea of a pattern that warrants cryarsing about
Politics is fickle. A rejoin platform would not satisfy the EU. They would need a sustained positive case for re-joining from the UK. Because a simple tip in balance to 'rejoin' would still be subject to the same argument as we are having now.
I can't see that happening in UK politics for a long time. The EU would want a considered, long term positive move towards the EU, in action and rhetoric from the UK.
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Alright, mate, no need to get so het up
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