basically then you have know figures just guess work?
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The leave camp did thats all what matters
The economic business would happen any way if you produce goods that are in demand they will sell you do not need a political union to dictate to you how it is done!
we export less to them more than we import from them!
Right, but their seems to be a massive lack of logic behind it when you consider the economic benefits it provides.
"More recent research exists
This research has since been updated, but the figures largely aren’t equivalent to the ones quoted above.
The latest findings estimate that recent immigrants from the 10 countries that joined the EU in 2004 (mainly eastern European) contributed £1.12 for every £1 received. Those from the rest of the EU put in £1.64 for every £1".
Not quite guess work.
Of course you import more...you will always import more.
yes but having the choice the USA has is better than some of the restriction the EU imposes on us!
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Because the only place I have seen that analysis has been on here. The whole campaign was based on utter tripe, from both sides.
But the simple equation now is can the UK still generate the £70 billion plus EU generated business from different deals and such like. Personally, I think its a maybe.
For example, London has a massive French population, 6th largest "French" city in fact. They have a thriving design/media/IT presence in the city, and I would be astonished if our new status, (still an unknown remember), would be struck to negate the positive aspects of our past membership.
Does that include all in work benefits TBF I have never seen any listed as yet I have never ever seen any DWP figures pass them by me as that £1.12p is probably just tax and NI contributions from migrants not the consideration on what they gain from the DWP
That's why DC wanted restrictions on that very point he came back with very little!
Also the strain on communities were the migrants reside councils the health service etc etc
Look migration is great if controllable and affordable?
Also it may stop the abuse of migrants who have accommodation offered and taken from the minimum wages from the gang masters!
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Yes seen that Google were saying the British will do well past brexit as we have a heritage of great inventors, they are opening a base which may end up our own silicon valley, it's better looking positive as the dye has been cast IMO!
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They didn't 'see past it', they just completely glossed over it.
Made bogus claims and blamed the woes of the Nation on immigrants.
The right wing press jumped all over it, here's a few examples of the kind of thing I'm talking about.
Substitute the word Migrant for Jew and roll back to Germany in the 1930's.....
They didn't 'see past it', they just completely glossed over it.
Made bogus claims and blamed the woes of the Nation on immigrants.
The right wing press jumped all over it, here's a few examples of the kind of thing I'm talking about.
They seem to have a problem with migrants.
I don't buy papers what's your business it's upset you a lot as Brexit both sides told lies have you built your bunker yet for world war 3 or waiting for the economy to slide of a cliffs that's the opposite you post there to what the remain camp posted only their government pamlets cost 8 million pound.They didn't 'see past it', they just completely glossed over it.
Made bogus claims and blamed the woes of the Nation on immigrants.
The right wing press jumped all over it, here's a few examples of the kind of thing I'm talking about.
Substitute the word Migrant for Jew and roll back to Germany in the 1930's.....
I am not a racist if you are indicating that My best neighbour is an Italian business man who voted out too!
You really are getting very emotional over this life has to go on!
The way I see it, economic arguments are just a cover for a nationalist idea.
It's a 20th century way of thinking.
I just travelled to Ireland, Portugal and Italy in one trip. Used one currency and travelled on continental Europe without a passport. What I didn't notice was any lack of individual culture. I met Irish, Portuguese and Italians, each as different as you'd expect. The EU has not diluted their culture, merely removed the clunky 20th century bureaucracy and made it easier to live on the continent.
To me, it's obvious Britain would be economically better off in the EU but this decision was taken out of nationalistic pride above economic sense.
It's a 20th century way of thinking.
I just travelled to Ireland, Portugal and Italy in one trip. Used one currency and travelled on continental Europe without a passport. What I didn't notice was any lack of individual culture. I met Irish, Portuguese and Italians, each as different as you'd expect. The EU has not diluted their culture, merely removed the clunky 20th century bureaucracy and made it easier to live on the continent.
To me, it's obvious Britain would be economically better off in the EU but this decision was taken out of nationalistic pride above economic sense.
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I'm just using your figures. The starting point is either £10.1Bn or £10.1Bn plus VAT......
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