Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

It’s just classic cognitive dissonance. It’s completely normal tbh. Self preservation.

Most people do it.

It’s far from normal, unless you’re personally invested in something to the point of delusion being preferable to reality.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Of course I do, I think we should have walked away yesterday.....

We have not walked away Johnson hot air and behaving as cornered rat... Barnier very long scheduled visit next week will still go ahead, although of course dressed up as EU caving into demands.

Johnson key sentence as the seriel bull pooper he is -

"what we're saying to them is come here, come to us, if there's some fundamental change of approach" - which means the UK is not walking away. See you Monday Barnier for the next installment of this Brexit façade.

 

[peteblue]

We have not walked away Johnson hot air and behaving as cornered rat... Barnier very long scheduled visit next week will still go ahead, although of course dressed up as EU caving into demands.

Johnson key sentence as the seriel bull pooper he is -

"what we're saying to them is come here, come to us, if there's some fundamental change of approach" - which means the UK is not walking away. See you Monday Barnier for the next installment of this Brexit façade.

I’m pretty sure that Barnier will come to London, however after Boris had spoken a No 10 official Spokesman said...

“There is only any point in Michel Barnier coming to London next week if he's prepared to address all the issues on the basis of a legal text in an accelerated way, without the UK required to make all the moves or to discuss the practicalities of travel and haulage,"
"If not there is no point in coming."
He added: "Trade talks are over. The EU have effectively ended them by saying they do not want to change their negotiating position."

Now we shall see what happens....

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

We have not walked away Johnson hot air and behaving as cornered rat... Barnier very long scheduled visit next week will still go ahead, although of course dressed up as EU caving into demands.

Johnson key sentence as the seriel bull pooper he is -

"what we're saying to them is come here, come to us, if there's some fundamental change of approach" - which means the UK is not walking away. See you Monday Barnier for the next installment of this Brexit façade.

No-one can trust word that comes out of Johnson insidious lying fat gob or his moniker government, Canada to Australian trade deal, Australia has no trade deal with EU, it's WTO terms.

After all, we have capitulated on security, nuclear, and everything else. And the EU's position hasn't changed.

This is just for the Brexiteers, a bit of showmanship, before Johnson bends the UK over to get rogered, phwoar Brexit sunny uplands, silly old sods

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

No-one can trust word that comes out of Johnson insidious lying fat gob or his moniker government, Canada to Australian trade deal, Australia has no trade deal with EU, it's WTO terms.

After all, we have capitulated on security, nuclear, and everything else. And the EU's position hasn't changed.

This is just for the Brexiteers, a bit of showmanship, before Johnson bends the UK over to get rogered, phwoar Brexit sunny uplands, silly old sods

You could well be right mate, here’s hoping.

 

[Kurt.]

Have we left the EU...

Not yet

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

You could well be right mate, here’s hoping.

It's all rhetoric and gamesmanship this don't come Monday Barnier, Johnson would fill his pants with excrement if Barnier said your right there is no point. Tiresome alpha male salesmanship...

 

[Prevenger17]

How anyone can possibly try and maintain that they’re happy with this outcome is beyond me.

As to be happy with no deal, then you’re pretending that trade deals aren’t of massive economic benefit. Yet the same people who’ll claim this is fantastic will also claim any other trade deal we do is a massive success and a Brexit bonus.

You’re also pretending we weren’t promised a ‘great deal’, that leaving the EU with no deal was a ‘million to one shot’ and also it’d be a ‘total failure of Statecraft’.

The mental contortions you’d have to put yourself through to hold these positions are truly spectacular and lack any honesty. It’s merely defending your ‘side’ at all costs, with the prime cost being your own integrity and credibility.

People don't want to look like gullible clowns, even though that ship has long since left the port

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

People don't want to look like gullible clowns, even though that ship has long since left the port

Yeah but denying reality is some next level lunacy.

Most of the ones celebrating this as some form of victory are thicker than a submarine door though.

 

[peteblue]

How anyone can possibly try and maintain that they’re happy with this outcome is beyond me.

As to be happy with no deal, then you’re pretending that trade deals aren’t of massive economic benefit. Yet the same people who’ll claim this is fantastic will also claim any other trade deal we do is a massive success and a Brexit bonus.

You’re also pretending we weren’t promised a ‘great deal’, that leaving the EU with no deal was a ‘million to one shot’ and also it’d be a ‘total failure of Statecraft’.

The mental contortions you’d have to put yourself through to hold these positions are truly spectacular and lack any honesty. It’s merely defending your ‘side’ at all costs, with the prime cost being your own integrity and credibility.

You will never understand why people voted to leave. I would bet that 99.999% who did are still more than happy to see the back of this EU mob. In addition, the few people I knew who voted remain are now solid leavers. Every negotiation, every utterance from Barnier and Co, merely underlined why the majority wanted to leave. We need to continue to play a straight bat, a deal will be done or a series of mini deals will be done, whatever really, but the days of playing games with this bunch of arrogant, self serving bureaucrats is coming to an end.....

 

[peteblue]

Not yet

We have actually, so I’m already happy.....

 

[Chewbacca]

You will never understand why people voted to leave. I would bet that 99.999% who did are still racist

 

[peteblue]

You could well be right mate, here’s hoping.

Why would you hope that the U.K. gets shafted by the EU......

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

You will never understand why people voted to leave. I would bet that 99.999% who did are still more than happy to see the back of this EU mob. In addition, the few people I knew who voted remain are now solid leavers. Every negotiation, every utterance from Barnier and Co, merely underlined why the majority wanted to leave. We need to continue to play a straight bat, a deal will be done or a series of mini deals will be done, whatever really, but the days of playing games with this bunch of arrogant, self serving bureaucrats is coming to an end.....

Yeah as 99.999% of Leave voters voted for no deal eh?

No.

Yet here’s you literally pulling numbers out of yer arse and making nads claims like that.

Btw the Canada trade deal he was on about today was never a possibility after he signed the WA, you know that WA that they won an election with, the oven ready one, that one. You should maybe read it.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

You will never understand why people voted to leave. I would bet that 99.999% who did are still more than happy to see the back of this EU mob. In addition, the few people I knew who voted remain are now solid leavers. Every negotiation, every utterance from Barnier and Co, merely underlined why the majority wanted to leave. We need to continue to play a straight bat, a deal will be done or a series of mini deals will be done, whatever really, but the days of playing games with this bunch of arrogant, self serving bureaucrats is coming to an end.....

Does breaking international laws equal a straight bat these days?