You said ‘if it can’t be blamed on Brexit it didn’t happen’, which imo was plain daft but I only speak for myself. We’ve always had reasoned dialogue haven’t we? I’ve certainly never called you a wum, a Nazi or thick, so why the victim act to me?
I NEVER SAID YOU HAD. WHAT I SAID IS THAT YOU AND OTHER REGULAR REMAIN POSTERS IN HERE ARE BLACK AND WHITE IN YOUR VIEW ON BREXIT. YOU SAY YOU ARE OPEN TO DEBATE BUT YOU AREN'T. YOU DISMISS EVERYTHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED PRO BREXIT AND RUBBISH EVERY REASON FOR LEAVING EVERY BREXIT POSTER IN HERE HAS EVER GIVEN. NO VICTIM ACT FROM ME MATE. JUST THE TRUTH AS ALWAYS.
I thought your assertion that U.K. automotive manufacturing would have somehow died anyway, irrespective of Brexit and due to electrification was glib, baseless and inaccurate. You appear to have taken offence to me having that view and giving my opinion on why that view might suit your pro Brexit stance.
SEE ABOVE. ANYTHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED PRO BREXIT YOU DISMISS AS FACT WHEN REALLY ITS JUST OPINION. HONDA HAS ALREADY SAID IT WONT PRODUCING ELECTRIC CARS OUTSIDE OF JAPAN, YOU SAY VW HAS ALREADY SPENT OR ALLOCATED £60bn ON ELECTRIC CARS. HOW MUCH OF THIS HAS BEEN IN THE UK. HOW MUCH HAS ANY OTHER COMPANY APART FROM NISSAN INVESTED IN THE UK FOR THIS. HOW MUCH WILL NISSAN INVEST IN FUTURE NOW THAT THERE ARE NO TARIFFS WITH THE EU? BUT MY VIEW THAT THE UK CAR INDUSTRY IS AT RISK ANYWAY IS DISMISSED AS GLIB WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE TO BACK THIS UP. SAME WITH YOUR OPINION THAT THE UK COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE ITS OWN CAR INDUSTRY POST BREXIT. ITS JUST DISMISSIVE AND THATS WHAT PISSES ME OFF.
I’m still waiting for someone to explain the supposed benefits of Brexit and I’ve certainly not seen any in the context of this sector.
I KNOW I HAVE GIVEN MY REASONS AT LEAST 2 OR 3 TIMES OVER THE YEARS AND IT SYTEMATICALLY GETS PICKED TO PIECES BY YOU LOT. OTHER PEOPLE IN HERE HAVE SAID THE SAME AND I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN TO NEW POSTERS IN HERE. YOU LOT ARE LIKE A BUNCH OF HYENAS. SHERE KHAN HAS NOTHING ON YOU. SO IN THE END WE DON'T BOTHER ANYMORE BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE WASTING OUR TIME AND ENERGY. I'VE NEVER PERSONALLY REVERTED TO THE "WE WON, GET OVER IT" MENTALITY, BUT I FULLY UNDERSTAND THOSE THAT DO.
As for you wanting empathy for your Brexiter views, I’ll save my empathy for those who’s lives it turns upside down thanks all the same, those who lose their jobs in the automotive manufacturing sector for example, or those who’s continued residence here is causing them untold stress as it’s being questioned in this ‘hostile environment’ the Tories and Brexit have created.
OH I SEE YOU'VE ADOPTED THE MORAL HIGH GROUND AS USUAL. SOMETHING ELSE YOU ALL HAVE IN COMMON. WE MAY HAVE BEEN THE ONES WHO VOTED BREXIT BUT IT WAS YOUR SIDE'S REACTION TO LOSING THAT HAS CAUSED THE DIVISION IN THIS COUNTRY. YOU ONLY HAVE TO GO BACK IN THIS THREAD TO THE DATE OF THE REFERENDUM. LEADING UPTO IT EVERYTHING WAS GOOD HUMOURED AND QUITE FUNNY IN HERE. BUT ONCE YOU FOUND OUT THAT THE COUNTRY HAD VOTED TO LEAVE, THE MOOD IN THE THREAD CHANGED IMMEDIATELY AND THE ANIMOSITY STARTED, AND HAS CONTINUED TO THIS DAY PRETTY MUCH.
IF YOU SEE THE VOTE AT THE TOP OF THIS THREAD YOU WILL NOTE THAT GOT MEMBERS VOTED TO REMAIN PRETTY MUCH 2:1. BUT THE RATIO OF REGULAR POSTERS IN THIS THREAD IS MORE LIKE 20:1 OR EVEN 30:1 IN FAVOUR OF REMAIN. I WONDER WHY.?
